> Can you (and Ben too if he's willing) try these... sure! - here are my results for the new Pd-0.55-0test3a (or did you actually mean to check Pd-0.55-0test2c once more?) with 'time': /Applications/Pd-0.55-0test3a.app/Contents/Resources/bin/pd -send "pd quit" 0.03s user 0.02s system 2% cpu 2.132 total /Applications/Pd-0.55-0test3a.app/Contents/Resources/bin/pd -noverbose -send 0.02s user 0.03s system 2% cpu 2.202 total /Applications/Pd-0.55-0test3a.app/Contents/Resources/bin/pd -noverbose -send 0.01s user 0.02s system 2% cpu 1.532 total /Applications/Pd-0.55-0test3a.app/Contents/Resources/bin/pd -noverbose -send 0.02s user 0.02s system 2% cpu 2.132 total
... there's a bit of variation though - therefore i'm additionally measuring with repeated runs through hyperfine with a "warmup" (as learnt from iohannes' tests ... see https://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2024-05/133227.html and https://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2024-05/133242.html ): hyperfine --warmup 3 -L params '-send "pd quit"','-nosound -send "pd quit"','-noprefs -send "pd quit"','-nostdpath -send "pd quit"' '/Applications/Pd-0.55-0test3a.app/Contents/Resources/bin/pd {params}' Benchmark 1: /Applications/Pd-0.55-0test3a.app/Contents/Resources/bin/pd -send "pd quit" Time (mean ± σ): 1.545 s ± 0.007 s [User: 0.017 s, System: 0.015 s] Range (min … max): 1.530 s … 1.553 s 10 runs Benchmark 2: /Applications/Pd-0.55-0test3a.app/Contents/Resources/bin/pd -nosound -send "pd quit" Time (mean ± σ): 1.545 s ± 0.008 s [User: 0.017 s, System: 0.015 s] Range (min … max): 1.531 s … 1.554 s 10 runs Benchmark 3: /Applications/Pd-0.55-0test3a.app/Contents/Resources/bin/pd -noprefs -send "pd quit" Time (mean ± σ): 1.524 s ± 0.016 s [User: 0.010 s, System: 0.014 s] Range (min … max): 1.505 s … 1.559 s 10 runs Benchmark 4: /Applications/Pd-0.55-0test3a.app/Contents/Resources/bin/pd -nostdpath -send "pd quit" Time (mean ± σ): 1.546 s ± 0.015 s [User: 0.017 s, System: 0.015 s] Range (min … max): 1.529 s … 1.581 s 10 runs ... so these results are quite similar (unless started with "-nogui") i also got the dialog that william mentions though. could this be connected? are those test versions signed the same way as Pd-0.54-1? i gave them permission manually in the security settings to avoid the repeated warnings and didn't remember if i did the same for pd-0.54-1. but obviously, it's not necessary there (just reinstalled that one to check, too ... hoping i didn't miss any persisting settings there!). cheers, ben On Sat, Jun 1, 2024 at 7:33 AM Miller Puckette <mpucke...@cloud.ucsd.edu> wrote: > > Hmm, sounds like there are more than one problem... > > Can you (and Ben too if he's willing) try these... > > time ..../Pd-0.55-0test2c.app/Contents/Resources/bin/pd -send "pd quit" > > time ..../Pd-0.55-0test2c.app/Contents/Resources/bin/pd -nosound -send > "pd quit" > > time ..../Pd-0.55-0test2c.app/Contents/Resources/bin/pd -noprefs -send > "pd quit" > > time ..../Pd-0.55-0test2c.app/Contents/Resources/bin/pd -nostdpath -send > "pd quit" > > I'm grasping at straws here :) Guessing that William's 8-second startup > and new popup might be something external that's fighting with some Mac > plist setting in Pd that might have changed. > > thanks > M > > On 6/1/24 12:12 AM, William Brent wrote: > > Thanks for this new release! Unfortunately, I can confirm the extra > > startup delay for macOS... I tested on an M1 machine with 64GB of > > memory running macOS 14.5. > > > > Also, I get the attached popup every time I open the app, even after > > clicking "allow." Maybe there's something in macOS preferences that > > will suppress it? After clicking "allow," it takes a full 8sec for the > > Pd window to appear. I've only timed this casually with my watch at > > this point, but after trying multiple times I can say that it's > > consistently around 8sec for me here. Pd-0.54-1 consistently springs > > to life in about 1sec for me. > > > > I'm happy to run any specific test routines if I can be useful on this. > > William > > > > > > On Fri, May 31, 2024 at 1:10 PM Miller Puckette > > <mpucke...@cloud.ucsd.edu> wrote: > > > > Test 3 is out. This should resolve all the trouble we've had with > > test2 > > except that one tester on MacOS is still finding that Pd 0.55 > > loads way > > more slowly than 0.54 - I don't see that happening on my machine > > and I > > don't know how many machines will be affected... it might take a > > while > > to track this one down, but hopefully it won't affect many > > people. If > > you _do_ notice longer startup times on MacOS please let me (or > > the Pd > > list) know - with more data points it migth be easier for me to > > replicate the problem for myself. > > > > as usual: http://msp.ucsd.edu/software.htm OR > > https://msp.ucsd.edu/software.htm > > > > source on github: https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data > > > > <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data__;!!Mih3wA!GVjycnnXvxANGR5EvpOhP-gDSVl648XDg2uY4mOCl4Bx2j-OYstW0TnDQ7n7R0W2zf5OF7RaFNFSCSjeka4$> > > > > cheers > > > > Miller > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Pd-announce mailing list > > pd-annou...@lists.iem.at > > https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce > > > > <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce__;!!Mih3wA!GVjycnnXvxANGR5EvpOhP-gDSVl648XDg2uY4mOCl4Bx2j-OYstW0TnDQ7n7R0W2zf5OF7RaFNFSA-t2mYg$> > > _______________________________________________ > > Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list > > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > > https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > > > > <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list__;!!Mih3wA!GVjycnnXvxANGR5EvpOhP-gDSVl648XDg2uY4mOCl4Bx2j-OYstW0TnDQ7n7R0W2zf5OF7RaFNFSC4IW8vI$> > > > > > > > > -- > > William Brent > > > > “Great minds flock together” > > Conflations: conversational idiom for the 21st century > > > > www.conflations.com > > <https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://www.conflations.com__;!!Mih3wA!GVjycnnXvxANGR5EvpOhP-gDSVl648XDg2uY4mOCl4Bx2j-OYstW0TnDQ7n7R0W2zf5OF7RaFNFShf8l5Rw$> > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list > > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list__;!!Mih3wA!GVjycnnXvxANGR5EvpOhP-gDSVl648XDg2uY4mOCl4Bx2j-OYstW0TnDQ7n7R0W2zf5OF7RaFNFSC4IW8vI$ > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list _______________________________________________ Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
