Dear IOhannes,

No, I am interested in the current build, which, according to the text of 
Miller’s download page <https://msp.ucsd.edu/software.htm>,  should run on 
systems as old as 10.10 (Yosemite). I currently run Pd 0.55-2, downloaded last 
year from the same page, under system 10.11 (El Capitan). So a compiled Pd 
0.56-0 that will run under 10.11 apparently exists, but it can’t be accessed 
and installed under 10.11 because of the APFS format of the disk image.

Thanks, and sorry for any confusion,

Mike Green

> On Jul 31, 2025, at 1:09 PM, IOhannes m zmölnig via Pd-list 
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Am 31. Juli 2025 19:51:44 MESZ schrieb "IOhannes m zmölnig via Pd-list" 
> <[email protected]>:
>> Am 31. Juli 2025 19:01:32 MESZ schrieb Michael Green 
>> <[email protected]>:
>>> The Pd 0.56-0 application compiled for Macintosh OS 10.10 or newer, 
>>> available for download at https://msp.ucsd.edu/software.htm, is contained 
>>> in an APFS-formatted .dmg disk image, and neither OS 10.10 nor OS 10.11 can 
>>> mount APFS disk images. Perhaps some charitable soul will make the 
>>> application available in an HFS-formatted disk image, the way previous 
>>> versions of Pd were?
>>> 
>> 
>> yikes. 
>> 
>> if the DMG is the one produced by the CI @ iem, then I'm a bit at a loss on 
>> what would have changed...
>> 
> 
> hmm. on rereading, I'm not sure whether I understand the problem. 
> 
> the iem-ci (maintained by yours truly) has been producing DMGs for some time, 
> but this is targeting amd64+arm64, that is: "newer" systems. 
> 
> afaict, you are interested in legacy builds for "older" macOS instead (I can 
> never keep track of all those versions, let alone codenames).
> 
> I think, that no builds for such older macOS have been produced since Pd-0.53.
> 
> afaik the real issue is, that the hardware to run such old (developer) 
> systems is starting to fall apart, and it is becoming harder and harder to 
> create binaries for such systems (given that apple is pushing the developer 
> tools to not be able to produce compatible binaries).
> 
> also I think that the number of actual users of such legacy systems is rather 
> small, so it's not clear whether it is really worth the effort from a dev pov 
> (I can obviously only speak for myself, and I'm not a Mac guy - so my cost 
> for providing such binaries might be higher than expected).
> 
> the question is, whether the community (aka: *you*) could provide binaries if 
> they are still wanted.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> mfg.sfg.jfd
> IOhannes
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