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Thanks for the info Kate, however, we are not making the pdf's, they are
being supplied to us as composite. That is when we have to break the pdf
apart according to the spot color specs.
Life used to be much simpler...
Ben

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Subject: RE: [PDF] Purchase adivce


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> Creo makes extensions for quark that will keep you spot colors as spot
when you make your pdf's.  You would have to download the Creo Spot Colors
XT.  When you postscript open the palette and choose the spots that you
want.
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> We use Pitstop for our editing needs.  I have downloaded a demo version of
crackerjack  and I liked that product also.
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> Kate Hellmann
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> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]@MOORECORP on behalf of Stefanie
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> > Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2003 11:50 AM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: [PDF] Purchase adivce
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> > Jackie,
> > I am in (a small dinghy) of the same boat. I manage 7 weekly's and 10
annual supplements with a staff of 5. We are still pasting up all but two
papers and are moving slowly into a digital workflow. We are currently
designing all ads in PageMaker (no kidding) printing them out and pasting
them up on boards with the edit,  which is formatted in columns in Word and
cut and pasted.
> > It's been slow going and only one weekly paper is being done in Quark
(with live text being placed and pdf ads run with AdForce). The reason for
the molasses momentum is because of the variety of problems that came up
with all of the pdfs. Default fonts, RGB embeded images, jpeg issues, pdf's
that won't separate spot colors in Quark (still haven't figured that one
out). All of these things are a part of the pdf learning curve and take time
. . . . but the thing that takes the most time is finding an error in an ad
after the pdf is made and having to go back into the native file, make the
change and re-pdf it. Alas, I too plan to purchase Crackerjack, I know a few
other papers who are using it to edit pdfs and they are very happy with it.
> > Jackie and everyone else, a couple of questions:
> > 1. Are you pdf-ing the editorial as well as the ads and then marrying
the two into quark and making one final pdf to output?
> > 3. Are you paginating your files? Do you use preps?
> > 2. Are you using an automatic pdf management software? For example, do
you have a server set up so that final ads are placed into an "incoming"
folder that is monitored and automatically pdf'd and put in an "outgoing"
folder? If so/not how is this managed? Is it a specific software or can it
be set up in distiller.
> > Thank you so much all . . . . clearly I need a little help.
> > Stefanie
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> > Stefanie Celata
> > Design Director
> > Enterprise Publishing
> > 508-548-4700 ext. 251
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > on 7/31/03 6:32 AM, Rioduo at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > Good morning all.
> > I'm happy to say that our IT depatment is finally willing to investivate
the purchase of a software to help us with problem PDF's. I am in pre press
for a group of 23 weekly + 2 daliy newspapers. I have suggested the 3 most
talked about on this list: Quite a Box of Trick, Pit Stop or Crackerjack(?).
I've given them the various links for the software, but would you all be
willing to give me first hand advice? I know nothing about the software
except what I've read and knowing my company, only one will be made
availible to us.
> > The problem we run into most often is with color being RGB. We have been
able to work around a lot of problem color ads by using Acrobat 5. If the
color portion is a photo within the ad, it's usually not too much of a
problem, except that we often won't find out until it doesn't separte to
film. Then it's a mad dash to try to fix the file.
> > Twice this last week though, we've had ads with text created in
something other than a layout program, say possibly Illustrator or
Photoshop, often ending up with 4/C black text. If we suspect a problem
ahead of deadline, we can often contact the artist to correct the problem,
but usually, it's not discovered till right on deadline to print. I usually
don't have direct contact with agency artists, we have 13 offices with thier
own sales rep's & comp people, then the files are sent to us. >
> > We are on Mac's, I think my 'new' computer will be running in OSX
classic (our G3's were stolen). We impose our pages in Quark 4 to send to
film.
> > So if you had to pick only one, which one would help us the most?
> > Thanks,
> > Jackie
> >
> >
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