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Rich, I agree with everything EXCEPT item 2 below.

If you are a QUARK user (especially Quark) you are much better off using EPS
files.  The problems that many users run into and clearly do not understand
is that if you are using RGB images and they are TIFF then Quark will
convert them to CMYK for you and destroy your image quality / color (Yes you
can choose composite RGB in the print Dialog but then it converts all your
CMYK to RGB).  They convert it to some form of SWOP but do the color
conversion without asking anything about the RGB data.  This causes any RGB
TIF images to be washed out and flat and desaturated (ugly).

If people are using RGB TIFF images they can make it work correctly only by
using Quarks CMS (Color Management System) and by using the ICC profiles for
a particular printer (now it is not device independent).

I agree that for any image that EPS will be the largest.  However, it will
be the most color accurate through ANY page layout application into the
final PDF.

My .02

Ken

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1. Original images. Make sure they are 300 dpi, and if you scale them down
in the design procoess (more than 20-30% or so), scale them down in
Photoshop before you import them.

2. Use tiff files, rather than eps for images.

3. Use the Distiller PPD to make your PostScript file.

4. You need to make a PDF for each type of use: screen (for web viewing),
standard (for printing on office printers), and press (if you will be
sending your file to a printer for offset reproduction). 

Let me know if these steps give you any better results.

Rich

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'k, here's the deal. We have a quark brochure for print with eps high res
images. I don't know how many pages, lots. When we try to generate a pdf, we
get a 57 mg file. Oh my gawd, this is HUGE! What are key steps in taking a
high res print file and producing a small pdf that can be portable online
and yet print ok on a regular office printer/????? 

Sara


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I guess my questions would be:

1) What do you consider huge?

2) What are you starting with? i.e., how many pages, how many images, what
size are the images, are they 300 dpi?

3) Are you printing to a Distiller PPD?

Every year I help a client with a 32-page full-color catalog that is created
by a designer in Quark. His PDF files are like 10-15 mb per page...I can
make the same PDF at 10% of his file sizes. My guess is that the problem is
his PPD, although I have yet to get to see how the designer makes the PDF
(he is a couple of hours away).

Any information you can share would be helpful, otherwise your guess is as
good as mine is.

Rich

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I doubt that XPress objects themselves create huge data volume, Thus I'd
expect this to be due to some imported file (TIFF, EPS, PDF, ...). Could you
isolate which of such imported files (if any/if my assumption is
correct) is causing this?

Olaf Druemmer

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>I seem to recall an issue regarding very large pdf files generated from 
>quark 6. We are also having this problem. It does not seem to matter 
>whether we create the pdf out of quark or send to distiller, file size 
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