moin Chris,

thanks for the input -- I'll try a check in Makefile.PL and see how
cpantesters behave.

mamosets,
  Bryan

On Mon, Nov 16, 2015 at 8:13 PM, Chris Marshall <devel.chm...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hi Bryan-
>
> The problem is that PDL::PP has a safety check that the version of the PDL
> core it was compiled against is the same as the version using the module.
> Unfortunately, this version has nothing to do with the version numbers of
> your modules and I don't know of a way to get the CPAN Testers to do the
> right thing.  One thing you could to to avoid false FAIL reports would be
> to check compatibility yourself at Makefile.PL or Build.PL configuration
> time and exit indicating NA if there is a conflict---at least that would
> not be a FAIL.
>
> Regards,
> Chris
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 16, 2015 at 8:16 AM, Bryan Jurish <moocow.bov...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> morning all,
>>
>> Apologies in advance for an annoying and quite possible off-topic
>> question, but I can't seem to get my head around this bug, and I'm hoping
>> perhaps someone on the list can enlighten me.
>>
>> in the wake of the release of PDL 2.014 and some associated buglets
>> manifesting in a few of my CPAN modules, I've noticed some very strange
>> behavior coming from cpantesters, to wit: systems reporting near-identical
>> configurations aren't testing identically; compare e.g.
>> http://www.cpantesters.org/cpan/report/c9c3665a-87b1-11e5-99df-94052cde3c15
>> (PASS) with
>> http://www.cpantesters.org/cpan/report/e77c5196-897a-11e5-b552-e159351a082c
>> (FAIL).  Both systems report themselves as "perl v5.22.0, GNU/Linux,
>> 3.16.0-4-amd64, x86_64-linux-thread-multi", both running PDL-2.014, yet
>> the one fails with a "PDL::VectorValued::Utils needs to be recompiled
>> against the newly installed PDL" message during testing, while the other
>> succeeds.
>>
>> I understand the why such a message can be useful; in this case, I'm not
>> sure that situation (re-linking and/or re-compilation required) applies.
>> The module in question, PDL::Ngrams
>> <https://metacpan.org/release/PDL-Ngrams>, depends on my CPAN module
>> PDL::VectorValued <https://metacpan.org/release/PDL-VectorValued> both
>> for runtime utilities (rlevec() & co) and compile-time macros
>> (vv_indx_sig(), vv_indx_typedef()).  For consistency reasons, I've put the
>> version information for PDL::VectorValued in a specialized file
>> PDL/VectorValued/Version.pm
>> <https://metacpan.org/source/MOOCOW/PDL-VectorValued-1.0.3/VectorValued/Version.pm>
>> (which itself does not require PDL).  Then, in PDL-Ngrams/Makefile.PL
>> <https://metacpan.org/source/MOOCOW/PDL-Ngrams-0.06/Makefile.PL>, I had
>> to specify
>>
>>    PREREQ_PM => { ..., 'PDL::VectorValued::Version' => ... }
>>
>> because ExtUtils::MakeMaker doesn't seem to resolve it correctly if I
>> specify it as PREREQ_PM=> { ..., 'PDL::VectorValued' => ... } when the
>> actual package $VERSION declaration isn't really in PDL/VectorValued.pm (as
>> it isn't).  On the other hand, I want PDL::VectorValued::Dev
>> <https://metacpan.org/pod/PDL::VectorValued::Dev> to carry the same
>> $VERSION as PDL::VectorValued itself, and I even need the Dev module in
>> order to build PDL::VectorValued::Utils
>> <https://metacpan.org/pod/PDL::VectorValued::Utils>, which provides the
>> PDL::PP guts for PDL::VectorValued.
>>
>> I'm guessing that the "needs re-compilation" messages from the FAIL
>> report are occurring on a smoker with an older version of PDL::VectorValued
>> installed, which passes the PREREQ_PM test because the referenced
>> PDL::VectorValued::Version package isn't itself built with PDL::PP, but
>> then fails during 'make test' because the actual PDL::VectorValued::Utils
>> guts aren't current.  Can anyone suggest a configuration that would allow
>> me to (a) specify a $VERSION for PDL::VectorValued and its sub-packages
>> once and only once, (b) specify PREREQ_PM for dependent modules like
>> PDL::Ngrams in a manner which is more palatable to CPAN smokers than the
>> current hacks, and (c) continue to use PDL::VectorValued::Dev when building
>> PDL::VectorValued::Utils itself?  Or is there something else going on here?
>>
>> I realize it's rather a complex situation but I'm about at my wits' end
>> here, and would be grateful for any suggestions.
>>
>> marmosets,
>>   Bryan
>>
>>
>> --
>> Bryan Jurish                           "There is *always* one more bug."
>> moocow.bov...@gmail.com         -Lubarsky's Law of Cybernetic Entomology
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