Dear All / Ed,

as mentioned before, it is possible to get a smooth installation of PDL
using (Perl 5.38, PDL 2.084) under Arch - in fact EndeavourOS - by the
commands below. perlbrew is not used as I have not seen a clean install
e.g. under Ubuntu which is still on perl 5.36:

yay cpanminus

sudo cpanm Term::ReadKey

sudo cpanm Term::ReadLine::Gnu

sudo cpanm Alien::Gnuplot # first

sudo cpanm PDL::Graphics::Gnuplot # second

sudo cpanm PDL::Graphics::Simple # third, pops up

However, *Alien::FreeImage* throws an error in a next step. Would any
developer mind to fix it:

sudo cpanm Alien::FreeImage # first
(used by: sudo cpanm PDL::IO::Image  # second)
...
Source/OpenEXR/Imath/ImathVec.h:2150:33: error: ISO C++17 does not allow
dynamic exception specifications
 2150 | Vec4<T>::normalizedExc () const throw (IEX_NAMESPACE::MathExc)
      |                                 ^~~~~
In file included from Source/FreeImage/../OpenEXR/IlmImf/ImfXdr.h:108,
                 from
Source/FreeImage/../OpenEXR/IlmImf/ImfGenericOutputFile.h:40,
                 from Source/FreeImage/../OpenEXR/IlmImf/ImfOutputFile.h:49:
Source/OpenEXR/Half/half.h: In constructor ‘half::half(float)’:
Source/OpenEXR/Half/half.h:462:22: warning: ISO C++17 does not allow
‘register’ storage class specifier [-Wregister]
  462 |         register int e = (x.i >> 23) & 0x000001ff;
      |                      ^
Source/OpenEXR/Half/half.h:473:26: warning: ISO C++17 does not allow
‘register’ storage class specifier [-Wregister]
  473 |             register int m = x.i & 0x007fffff;
      |                          ^
make: *** [Makefile.gnu:64: Source/FreeImage/PluginEXR.o] Error 1
###ERROR### make failed [512] at inc/My/Builder/Unix.pm line 33.
-> FAIL Installing Alien::FreeImage failed. See
/root/.cpanm/work/1694702761.20233/build.log for details. Retry with
--force to force install it.

Thanks a lot, Thomas

On Sat, Sep 2, 2023 at 12:47 AM Ed . <ej...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Thomas,
>
>
>
> You will want to install Term::ReadKey and probably Term::ReadLine::Gnu to
> have a nicer, more interactive perldl. I don’t use pdl2 myself, but it did
> tell you what it needs to run if you want to use it.
>
>
>
> Also, Alien::Gnuplot only installs (or checks for) actual gnuplot. If you
> want the PDL interface to it, which PDL::Graphics::Simple wraps around, you
> need to install PDL::Graphics::Gnuplot. This would solve the thing
> PDL::Graphics::Simple was telling you: “Sorry, all known plotting engines
> failed.  Install one and try again.” Please read
> https://metacpan.org/pod/PDL::Graphics::Simple#SUPPORTED-GRAPHICS-ENGINES
>
>
>
> Best regards,
>
> Ed
>
>
>
> *From: *ng0...@gmail.com
> *Sent: *01 September 2023 18:10
> *To: *Ed . <ej...@hotmail.com>
> *Cc: *Ingo Schmid <ingo...@gmx.at>; pdl-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
> *Subject: *Re: [Pdl-devel] Debian 12 "-t experimental" install of PDL
>
>
>
> Hello Ed,
>
>
>
> as I understand, there a different options to get First Steps from the PDL
> book to work. I have adopted the approach using perlbrew and cpanm as
> they seem the most stable.
>
>
>
> Please find below the sequence of commands issued and the final error
> messages under Ubuntu. I used the same approach on three different Linux
> distributions (Debian, Ubuntu, Arch) with the same result.
>
>
>
> Is there any chance to reproduce the problem and look into it?
>
>
>
> Thanks a lot, Thomas
>
>
>
> # idea: install PDL piggyback from CPAN under perlbrew
>
>
>
> perlbrew init # change prompt in .profile, .bashrc
>
> perlbrew install perl-5.38.0
>
> perlbrew install-cpanm
>
> perlbrew install-patchperl
>
> perlbrew switch perl-5.38.0
>
>
>
> cpanm Alien::Gnuplot # first ...OK
>
> cpanm PDL::Graphics::Simple # second ...OK
>
>
>
> Ubuntu: ~ $ pdl2
>
> pdl2: Devel::REPL version 1.003011 not found, running
> '/home/th6mas/perl5/perlbrew/perls/perl-5.38.0/bin/perldl' instead...
>
> perlDL shell v1.357
>
>  PDL comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY. For details, see the file
>
>  'COPYING' in the PDL distribution. This is free software and you
>
>  are welcome to redistribute it under certain conditions, see
>
>  the same file for details.
>
> ReadLines, NiceSlice, MultiLines  enabled
>
> Reading PDL/default.perldlrc...
>
> WARNING: Error loading PDL: 'Can't locate Term/ReadKey.pm in @INC (you may
> need to install the Term::ReadKey module) (@INC entries checked:
> /home/th6mas/perl5/perlbrew/perls/perl-5.38.0/lib/site_perl/5.38.0/x86_64-linux
> /home/th6mas/perl5/perlbrew/perls/perl-5.38.0/lib/site_perl/5.38.0
> /home/th6mas/perl5/perlbrew/perls/perl-5.38.0/lib/5.38.0/x86_64-linux
> /home/th6mas/perl5/perlbrew/perls/perl-5.38.0/lib/5.38.0) at
> /home/th6mas/perl5/perlbrew/perls/perl-5.38.0/lib/site_perl/5.38.0/x86_64-linux/PDL/Doc/Perldl.pm
> line 52.
>
> BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at
> /home/th6mas/perl5/perlbrew/perls/perl-5.38.0/lib/site_perl/5.38.0/x86_64-linux/PDL/Doc/Perldl.pm
> line 52.
>
> Compilation failed in require at
> /home/th6mas/perl5/perlbrew/perls/perl-5.38.0/lib/site_perl/5.38.0/x86_64-linux/PDL/default.perldlrc
> line 37.
>
> BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at
> /home/th6mas/perl5/perlbrew/perls/perl-5.38.0/lib/site_perl/5.38.0/x86_64-linux/PDL/default.perldlrc
> line 37.
>
> Compilation failed in require at (eval 14) line 1.
>
> ' - trying blib.
>
> WARNING: PDL startup not found only plain perl available
>
>
>
> Note: AutoLoader not enabled ('use PDL::AutoLoader' recommended)
>
>
>
> perl> use PDL::Graphics::Simple
>
> Can't locate PDL/Graphics/PGPLOT/Window.pm in @INC (you may need to
> install the PDL::Graphics::PGPLOT::Window module) (@INC entries checked:
> /home/th6mas/perl5/perlbrew/perls/perl-5.38.0/lib/site_perl/5.38.0/x86_64-linux
> /home/th6mas/perl5/perlbrew/perls/perl-5.38.0/lib/site_perl/5.38.0
> /home/th6mas/perl5/perlbrew/perls/perl-5.38.0/lib/5.38.0/x86_64-linux
> /home/th6mas/perl5/perlbrew/perls/perl-5.38.0/lib/5.38.0) at
> /home/th6mas/perl5/perlbrew/perls/perl-5.38.0/lib/site_perl/5.38.0/PDL/Graphics/Simple/PGPLOT.pm
> line 28, <STDIN> line 1.
>
>
>
> perl> imag (sin(rvals(200,200)+1))
>
> Sorry, all known plotting engines failed.  Install one and try again.
>
>  at
> /home/th6mas/perl5/perlbrew/perls/perl-5.38.0/lib/site_perl/5.38.0/PDL/Graphics/Simple.pm
> line 434, <STDIN> line 2.
>
> PDL::Graphics::Simple::new("PDL::Graphics::Simple") called at
> /home/th6mas/perl5/perlbrew/perls/perl-5.38.0/lib/site_perl/5.38.0/PDL/Graphics/Simple.pm
> line 389
>
> PDL::Graphics::Simple::pgswin() called at
> /home/th6mas/perl5/perlbrew/perls/perl-5.38.0/lib/site_perl/5.38.0/PDL/Graphics/Simple.pm
> line 1262
>
> PDL::Graphics::Simple::_global_or_new() called at
> /home/th6mas/perl5/perlbrew/perls/perl-5.38.0/lib/site_perl/5.38.0/PDL/Graphics/Simple.pm
> line 1151
>
> PDL::Graphics::Simple::imag(PDL=SCALAR(0x563dd1c9aca0)) called at (eval
> 50) line 1
>
> eval 'imag (sin(rvals(200,200)+1))
>
> ' called at (eval 36) line 6
>
> main::eval_and_report("imag (sin(rvals(200,200)+1))\x{a}") called at
> /home/th6mas/perl5/perlbrew/perls/perl-5.38.0/bin/perldl line 618
>
> main::process_input() called at
> /home/th6mas/perl5/perlbrew/perls/perl-5.38.0/bin/perldl line 638
>
> eval {...} called at
> /home/th6mas/perl5/perlbrew/perls/perl-5.38.0/bin/perldl line 638
>
> require /home/th6mas/perl5/perlbrew/perls/perl-5.38.0/bin/perldl called at
> /home/th6mas/perl5/perlbrew/perls/perl-5.38.0/bin/pdl2 line 27
>
> main::BEGIN() called at
> /home/th6mas/perl5/perlbrew/perls/perl-5.38.0/bin/pdl2 line 33
>
> eval {...} called at
> /home/th6mas/perl5/perlbrew/perls/perl-5.38.0/bin/pdl2 line 33
>
>
>
> perl> quit
>
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Sep 1, 2023 at 4:56 PM Ed . <ej...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> Please just try with the latest (Perl 5.38, PDL 2.084), and report any
> problems?
>
>
>
> Best regards,
>
> Ed
>
>
>
> *From: *ng0...@gmail.com
> *Sent: *31 August 2023 19:09
> *To: *Ingo Schmid <ingo...@gmx.at>
> *Cc: *pdl-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
> *Subject: *Re: [Pdl-devel] Debian 12 "-t experimental" install of PDL
>
>
>
> Hello Ingo,
>
>
>
> much appreciate! Just to ask which perl version is most likely to run the
> commands from the First Step PDL Book?
>
>
>
> @anyone: which perl version is known to work for that purpose?
>
>
>
> Thanks a lot, Thomas
>
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 31, 2023 at 11:00 AM Ingo Schmid <ingo...@gmx.at> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I have not really read through the whole thread, I apologise if this does
> not apply to your problem then.
>
> I have moved most of the PDL stuff to perlbrew which allows a fairly
> system independent installation, it's berrybrew on windows, I don't own
> Macs. On linux, your distribution most probably provides it, I used apt to
> install the software itself. The best part about is, that system (perl)
> upgrades don't break your PDL installation. This allowed me to consistently
> run things cross platform with no troubles for a long time.
>
> Run
>
> > perlbrew install <perl version>
> > perlbrew install-cpanm
> > perlbrew install-patchperl
>
> It takes a fair amount of installation time and I guess disk space,
> defaults to your home.
>
> Please consult the perlbrew docs for the exact process, this is I think
> the most useful info: https://perlbrew.pl/Perlbrew-and-Friends.html. Once
> you are set, use
>
> > perlbrew switch ...
>
> > cpanm PDL::Graphics::Simple
>
> I guess you may need to install a few dependencies that are either
> ambiguous or simply missing using cpanm from the same shell. I don't
> remember if P:G:S comes with a default backend or if you need to, for
> example, install gnuplot.
>
> I hope this helps.
>
> Ingo
>
> On 8/31/23 10:12, ng0...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
>
>
> would anyone with a working version mind to post some hints on how to
> achieve:
>
>
>
> cpan PDL::Graphics::Simple
> pdl> use PDL::Graphics::Simple
> pdl> imag (sin(rvals(200,200)+1))
>
>
>
> on no matter on which platform but with the least number of steps?
>
>
>
> Thanks a lot, Thomas
>
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 30, 2023 at 4:51 PM William Schmidt <
> t.william.schm...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hello Thomas (ngO177),
>
>
>
> I encountered a similar problem building PDL 2.083 and 2.084 in macOS
> Monterrey, to wit: getting PDL::Graphics::Simple to work, or even to pass
> its build tests.  Rather than repeat the odyssey I went through here I
> suggest you read the write-up I did at perlmonks that documents the build
> debug process:
>
>
>
> https://www.perlmonks.org/?node_id=11153860
>
>
>
> I posted this as open-issue #450 at PDL meta-cpan, but alas, no one from
> PDL dev has, as yet, bothered to read it.  In a nutshell, you need a
> graphics engine on your machine and if there isn't one, or PDL can't find
> it, the Alien process (since a graphics engine is defined in PDL-speak as
> an alien process) will find one appropriate to your OS on the net, download
> and build it for you. Alas, for macOS Monterrey, Alien built a crippled
> plotting engine. It failed to un-comment any of the three #ifdef terminal
> definitions that support graphics in macOS. Thus, no terminal def for macOS
> was compiled into gnuplot. The fix, for me, was to rtfm the build docs,
> initialize the environment to point to my preferred graphics engine
> (gnuplot, built by me with macports rather than Alien), and enable
> interactive build tests.  To be fair to PDL developers, this is all
> documented in the PDL build instructions and 'man gnuplot', but most of us
> take the ease of building Perl modules for granted and don't bother to read
> them unless something goes wrong.  Alien is a brilliant idea but at present
> its execution in PDL is flawed. It attempts to transparently obtain for you
> an appropriate graphics engine but fails to build it correctly.  With a
> little hacking you can get around this, I did, but as always, your mileage
> will vary.  I would very much like to hear from you after you have read the
> perlmonks post and evaluated my solution in a Linux context.  My PDL in
> Monterrey is now working correctly, so I held off trying to build PDL in
> Ubuntu, but if nothing works for you I will give it a try.
>
>
> Regards,
> Will Schmidt (perlboy_emeritus)
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 30, 2023 at 5:22 AM <ng0...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
>
>
> in order to take some first steps
>
> cpan PDL::Graphics::Simple
> pdl> use PDL::Graphics::Simple
> pdl> imag (sin(rvals(200,200)+1))
>
>
>
> on Debian 12 w/ experimental repos activated, all I try, see below, fails.
>
>
>
> Any ideas?
>
> Appreciate, Thomas
> pdl
>
> sudo apt -t experimental install *pdl*
>
> sudo apt -t experimental install *pgplot5*
>
> sudo apt -t experimental install *libpgplot-perl*
>
>
>
> sudo apt -t experimental install *libpdl-graphics-gnuplot-perl*
> cpan *graphics simple*
>
> cpan PDL::Graphics::Simple
>
>
>
> ...
>
> Test Summary Report
>
> -------------------
>
> t/simple.t (Wstat: 512 (exited 2) Tests: 24 Failed: 2)
>
>   Failed tests:  1, 12
>
>   Non-zero exit status: 2
>
>   Parse errors: No plan found in TAP output
>
> Files=1, Tests=24,  2 wallclock secs ( 0.01 usr  0.00 sys +  0.26 cusr
> 0.22 csys =  0.49 CPU)
>
> Result: FAIL
>
> Failed 1/1 test programs. 2/24 subtests failed.
>
> make: *** [Makefile:851: test_dynamic] Error 2
>
>   ETJ/PDL-Graphics-Simple-1.009.tar.gz
>
>   make test -- NOT OK
>
> //hint// to see the cpan-testers results for installing this module, try:
>
>   reports ETJ/PDL-Graphics-Simple-1.009.tar.gz
> *dh-make-perl*
>
> https://wiki.debian.org/PerlFAQ
>
> sudo apt -t experimental install *dh-make-perl*
>
>
>
> dh-make-perl --build --cpan PDL::Graphics::Simple
>
>
>
> ...
>
> Test Summary Report
>
> -------------------
>
> t/simple.t (Wstat: 512 (exited 2) Tests: 24 Failed: 2)
>
>   Failed tests:  1, 12
>
>   Non-zero exit status: 2
>
>   Parse errors: No plan found in TAP output
>
> Files=1, Tests=24,  1 wallclock secs ( 0.01 usr  0.00 sys +  0.29 cusr
> 0.21 csys =  0.51 CPU)
>
> Result: FAIL
>
> Failed 1/1 test programs. 2/24 subtests failed.
>
> make[1]: *** [Makefile:854: test_dynamic] Error 2
>
> make[1]: Leaving directory '/home/th6mas/PDL-Graphics-Simple-1.009'
>
> dh_auto_test: error: make -j1 test TEST_VERBOSE=1 returned exit code 2
>
> make: *** [debian/rules:4: build] Error 255
>
> make: Leaving directory '/home/th6mas/PDL-Graphics-Simple-1.009'
>
> Cannot create deb package: 'debian/rules build' failed.
>
>
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