Seems to me that you know what you are talking about.
The Pythagoreans  did not think it irrelevant whether or not numbers exist in nature - 
but that is not now considered scientific - now it is called magic.
All the best!
Raimo
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Lähettäjä: Steve Desjardins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Päivä: 30. joulukuuta 2002 16:31
Aihe: Re: Vs: Numbers and the Golden Section


>Hume is famous for a reason.  (My own view, however, is probably more in
>line with Kant's reply to Hume.)  But this also fits well with the
>modern "scientific" approach to human understanding.  By this I  mean
>that what we think is a product of the brain which is a physical object
>that works by some set of rules like a computer (but probably a
>completely different set of rules.)  The rules may lead to incredibly
>complex behavior, but this no different from anything else in nature. 
>
> All I'm saying is that we have had great success modeling nature with
>math, e.g., pi, e, etc.  appear in our representations of the laws of
>nature.  The actual philosophical status of numbers is interesting but
>irrelevant.  We have used them very successfully to model the world,
>they exist in our thinking, and can affect our thinking.  Whether or not
>they exist in nature is another question.
>
>You know, I swore I would not get involved in this discussion.  I even
>avoided several threads with different names.  It kept appearing in a
>different guise, however, and finally caught me.  I do have this great
>picture of me with the statue of Hume in Edinburgh.  Maybe I'll change
>me PDML portrait . . .;-)
>
>
>Steven Desjardins
>Department of Chemistry
>Washington and Lee University
>Lexington, VA 24450
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