In a message dated 1/15/2003 12:58:32 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> Thanks for the specimen shot. As for the distinction you make > between "swirlies" and bokeh, I'm not sure that I agree with the > distinction (or, to be more specific, the necessity for such a > distinction). To me, "swirlies" still represent a form of bad bokeh > - in other words, there are several ways that a lens can provide > unpleasant (yes, I know that's a subjective term) out-of-focus areas > in an image, and a bad case of "swirlies" is just one of > them. > > Fred You're making an assumption that I have not made. The circular distortion occurs at the zoom's maximum focal length. I think it might occur even without a shallow depth of field -- i.e. no bokeh. I don't have a photo illustrating that because I bought the lens for close-ups (70-200). Anyway, when I first brought it up on this list, the consensus was that swirlies was a different and separate effect than just bad bokeh -- so I will go with the list's wisdom. Later, Doe aka Marnie ;-)