mishka wrote: > > you have probably meant "except that it start out as JWB appointee and does > exactly what it's told", right? > > and as far as threat goes... in recent history, iraq has made far less > damage to the world than either britain or usa (or france, or germany or > russia for that matter).
I guess you have ignored for years and years...and years...the genocide Saddam has practiced, right? Or maybe that doesn't count, so long as you leave your neighbors alone? That's a pitiable attitude, Mishka. > this rhethoric about democracy and freedom is pathetic. the country that > has been authorizing genocide for decades, if not centuries, 'Scuse me? Authorizing? Whom, to do what? >...that has attacked > all its neighbors at some point in the past, that invented nuclear weapons, Only because we judged it the better of the available courses of action to be first, instead of a very VERY sorry second! Do you have any understanding of how close Germany was? You cannot ignore their contribution to the speed of OUR development of nuclear weapons. It's their fervor that drove us on to completion and demonstration of the first-off weapon of it's kind. You may not like it, nor do I...but the world wouldn't exist for you as it does now, if anyone else had gotten there first. So I believe... > the only one that has actually used them against civilians, that has just > introduced secret trials, Yes, and that does need looking into. No-one to be spared. >...that said it's legal and constitutional to disappear people, Your diatribe misses no subject, does it? Did you have anyone in particular in mind? >...that bases its internal policies on race -- Oh really? Have you a source for that contention? > is going to teach the world freedom? > gimmie a break! Which would you like? Arm or leg? > now, can we go back to discussing leica and canon? No, I'd quite frankly rather talk about Pentax cameras and their use. I'm getting sort of sick of hearing about the Leicas, with their artificially inflated prices, when most of them are no longer even made by the parent company. Leica/Leitz, as a producer of ultra fine cameras, once more than worth their price in the photographic world, has slipped down the path to mediocrity. Still an excellent camera, most of the more expensive ones anyhow, but their mid-line and below are not significantly better than your average Minolta. If that. Sorry if I have tweaked some Minolta fans. It was not my intention. keith whaley > mishka > > p.s. yes, i live here. it doesn't mean i should pretend it all does not exist. > > > Neither I > > nor my government care what form of government the Iraqis choose, except > > that it start out as the choice of the Iraqi people and that it not be a > > danger to their neighbors or the world.
