Jose Many thanks........................you are a real gentleman. Peter/Cotty Coincidentally one of my LXs is at Asahi Photo this week for a service. Whilst the guys there are really nice they don't accept any work on motors or winders [they say they can't get the parts] I have also asked them for a spare LX lug[or two] to do a grip modification a la LX 2000 but they didn't seem to have anything. Peter..........any sign of thse ever appearing again????? Or has anyone else got a source? Best Clive Antibes France