In some respects, Paul, I have to agree. Even though I was out of town for the past week and a half (still receiving pdml mail), I didn't see much to comment on. Those who join the flames can't seem to let well enough alone. When there is not a right or wrong side to the debate, just a difference of opinion, one only needs to state their opinion ONCE. On top of that, when it concerns religion, politics and Operating Systems, all opinions have been heard many times. We don't need to hear any opinions on those. Been there, done that - been there, done that - been there, done that...
Having been on the list for quite a few years, I would say the list is going through one of those ugly growing/changing phases. Hopefully it will pass as others have passed and get back to what has always made this list worth participating in. The best we can do is ignore the noise and continue what is good about the list. Paul, I value your contributions very much and hope that you will at least stay around and contribute when something worth discussing comes up. Keep up the PAW's - you have an amazing talent and we can all learn from you. Bruce Wednesday, July 14, 2004, 7:18:52 PM, you wrote: PS> The list has become insane. The evidence is there for all to read. PS> We've suffered a series of horrific off-topic flame wars. Apparently, PS> this latest religious, political, philosophical flame war was initiated PS> by my referencing a few rather tame nudes that I had posted on one of PS> my own web pages. I referenced them in the hope that there might be PS> some discussion regarding their photographic merit or lack of the same. PS> I think there were two or three posts that actually said anything at PS> all about the photos. Several hundred subsequent posts have hurled PS> insults back and forth in regard to the moral and ethical beliefs of PS> various list members. Some of the list veterans blame it all on the PS> newcomers, yet the old-timers continue to fan the flames, bragging PS> about how they've kill filed one member or another. That, of course, PS> incites another venemous response. This is sick. I want no part of it. PS> I think there are some photography sites on the internet where rational PS> discussions of photographic topics can take place. I'm going to see if PS> I can find one. PS> paul Stenquist