Thanks Mark.
Funny how thers overxposure with the 16-45mm. In fact it might be a wide
angle problem. I often get overexposed images with my A2.8/20mm - on film
too!!??
Jens

Jens Bladt
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Fra: Mark Stringer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sendt: 26. oktober 2004 01:43
Til: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Emne: Re: Which wide angle zoom for the *ist D?


I agree the DA16-45 should be the solution.  If you can take one out and
shoot in bright sunlight and you are satisfied with the results, go for it.
I know there are a lot of satisfied owners of this lens.  I am going to send
mine to Pentax with a memory card with examples, but they wanted my camera
also.  I do not want to send my camera at this time.
The first link shows the problem http://www.cmstringer.com/pentaxtest/

The second link is all DA16-45 photos but with -1 EV.  They look pretty
good.  http://www.cmstringer.com/abbeville5/

----- Original Message -----
From: "Frantisek" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Jens Bladt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, October 25, 2004 4:02 PM
Subject: Re: Which wide angle zoom for the *ist D?


> When I had the same problem, I tried several. Several PJs, also
> myself, tried the Sigma 17-35. We all agreed that it's bad. IMNSHO,
> stay away from it. It's bad even on APS crop digital. The Sigma
> 3.5-5.6/18-50 is a cheap lens, not good optically until f/8. But it as
> you can get it for about 50 euro used, it might be worth a shot until
> you can get something better (which is why it ended in my bag, for
> exactly that reason, and I get paid even for images from this lens...
> gasp! I dislike using it though, and it was only unplanned additional
> living expenses that kept me so far from buying a 2.8/20-35 Nikkor or
> better a 2.8/17-35 Nikkor). Still, it was IMO better than the 17-35 DG
> Sigma... The 2.8/18-50 Sigma is too new to tell anything about. I saw
> just some sample pictures on the internet which had obvious corner
> softness wide open, but I distrust internet samples, I prefer using a
> lens myself. I have no direct experience with the rest (except the,
> now discontinued, Tokina 3.5-3.5/20-35 which I used on film, bought
> new, it broke on me three times before returning it for a refund...
> the 19-35 Tokina is more plasticky than the older 20-35...). Vivitar
> S1 is AFAIK a rebadged Cosina 19-35. I have saw several torn apart
> cheap Cosina zooms. It seems they are bottom of the pack (unlike their
> SL series and rangefinder series primes!). You can also consider used
> Tokina ATX 2.8/20-35. Used it goes for around 300-350 Euro. I almost
> got one, one friend from a big daily paper used it with D1X, and said
> it was good. The only one I tried on my camera was very bad though.
> Might be sample variance or bad usage by the previous owner. It was
> very small for a fast wide zoom, but the used sample I tried was
> optically very bad. Still, I know that judging used lenses is near
> impossible, their previous life might have ruined it (and believe me,
> I have myself ruined optically some - before I acquired them -
> perfectly good lenses <vbg>)
>
> From what I heard, you could make best with the Pentax DA 16-45. No
> personal experience with it though.
>
> This is all very subjective, and thus my opinions may be totally
> unusable for your situation. I do mostly photojournalism type jobs, so I
need
> best performance near wide open, and I don't care a bit about
> geometric distortions. You might do more architecture, and geometric
> distortions might make an otherwise fine lens unsuitable for you. Or
> you might be better with a 20mm prime? who knows ;-) Try to get to a
> good shop who carries most of them and ask them to test them outside
> on your camera. They should cooperate. That's the best way.
>
> Good light!
>            fra
>
>



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