Pat,
Like Chris, I've used a long air release some 20 years ago on some
Baltimore Orioles at the feeder.  I don't remember if I used a 50mm or
135mm, but you can get really close and fill the frame with the feed
tray & bird.  I've still got the shots around somewhere...
Regards,  Bob S.

On Thu, 2 Dec 2004 13:02:07 +0000 (GMT), Chris Stoddart
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> Pat,
> 
> I tried something like this once about 20 years ago with an ME Super +
> winder, a 135/2.8 (not Pentax), tripod and a great long air release. The
> objective was to photograph siskins (Carduelis pinus, about the size of a
> fat sparrow) on a feeder whilst I was hiding in the house.
> 
> Although technically fine, the results weren't very pretty, maybe because
> judging the 'decisive moment' from 30 feet away behind glass was bloody
> hard. Also, even with a 135mm the click of the shutter and/or whirr of
> the winder scared the birds away EVERY time, so it took about 2 hours to
> get 1/2 doz pictures. I think this also contributed to the birds looking
> a bit freaked out in the photos too :-) I'm afraid I haven't repeated the
> experiment since.
> 
> The 15mm might be a fun idea right up close (a 'birds-eye view', hah!),
> but I suspect it will be very hit and miss and you'll get a lot of waste
> shots. It may be possible to desensitize the birds to the camera by
> placing a similar box it the same position and piping 'click-whirr' sounds
> through it. Other than that it's almost certainly going to scare them off
> each shot.
> 
> Good luck with it though and you'll have to let us see any good pics?
> 
> Chris
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Wed, 1 Dec 2004, Pat Curran wrote:
> 
> > I plan an attempt at bird table photography during the holidays using one of
> > my Super A bodies / Motor Drive A and a 15mm f3.5 A lens.
> >
> > The plan is to bait a pre-focused area for song birds and then fire the
> > tripod mounted Super A via a newly acquired infrared trigger from the
> > comfort of the kitchen window.
> >
> > Anyone any experience of this type of bird photography?
> >
> > My other lenses are a 50mm f1.4 A and a 200mm f4 A.  (- also ordered a used
> > 28mm f2.8 A from KEH tonight so I will have a choice of four lenses - ) Any
> > suggestions on the best lens to use on this project or other tips would be
> > very much appreciated.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Pat
> >
> 
>

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