Thanks Tom, very helpful.
I saw some foam-core poster board in a store the other day and
was wondering if it might work.
Eventually I'd like some bigger/better lights but for now 'cheap'
is the word of the day. ;-)

Don

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Graywolf [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2005 6:03 PM
> To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
> Subject: Re: Sot Box or Umbrella, which is better?
> 
> 
> Interestingly I saw several of the answers before your post came up, Don.
> 
> The real answer is that depends. It depends on what you are 
> trying to do, and 
> how much light you have available.
> 
> Taking the second first as it is simpler to answer, softboxes use 
> up quite a bit 
> of light. So with your small strobes they would not be the best 
> thing to use 
> unless you are only interested in small product photography with 
> the lights up 
> close.
> 
> On the first, what you are trying to do, I prefer umbrellas for 
> portraiture, and 
> softboxes for most anything else (sometimes I like hard light 
> rather than soft 
> though). For portraiture 2 medium power umbrella lights and two 
> lower power 
> snooted lights work well for traditional lighting (or two large 
> floods and and a 
> couple of baby spots if you use continuous lighting). That give 
> you Key, Fill, 
> background, and hair or back lights.
> 
> For other stuff you can wind up using everything you can get your 
> hands on. It 
> seems however that most location photographers use minimal 
> lighting these days. 
> Just two lights with softboxes. Serious film crews use a truck 
> load of lights.
> 
> So based upon the above I would recommend you get a couple of 
> higher power 
> strobes (something like those Alien Bees that Tom Van Veen uses) 
> that you can 
> use with boxes for location work, or with the existing lower 
> power ones for 
> studio. For portraiture you can put the umbrellas on the high 
> power strobs and 
> fabricate snoots or barndoors for the current ones. That would 
> give you maximum 
> versitility for the least money.
> 
> However if you are mainly doing small product shots you can just 
> consider a 
> couple of small softboxes for your existing strobes. Or, you may 
> want to think 
> of getting a light tent instead of softboxes.
> 
> BTW: if they do not need to be portable softboxes can be fabricated from 
> foamcore and duct tape real easily.
> 
> Hope this is helpful.
> 
> graywolf
> http://www.graywolfphoto.com
> "Idiot Proof" <==> "Expert Proof"
> -----------------------------------
> 
> 
> Don Sanderson wrote:
> > I'm trying to come up with the best way to complete
> > a small studio lighting setup.
> > I have 2 120WS strobes with 32" umbrellas and stands.
> > I also have 2 extra stands.
> > I'd like to get 2 more AC slave strobes of about the same power.
> > I can't decide whether to go with 2 more umbrellas and holders or
> > get 2 24-32" soft boxes.
> > My umbrellas can be used as bounce or "shoot thru".
> > When used as shoot thru sometimes the ribs cause a shadow
> > problem.
> > 
> > What do you all think of umbrellas vs softboxes as far as ease of
> > setup/use and effectiveness/versatility.
> > Main uses would be: portrait, product and still life.
> > 
> > TIA
> > Don
> > 
> > 
> > 
> 
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