Everyone has different tastes. Mine is definitely not for Starbucks coffee. I'm almost 58 years old now and have been drinking coffee since I was perhaps eight years old, when my dad would bring home fresh ground 8 O'clock Coffee from the A&P. (That's The Great Atlantic and Pacific Tea Company to you young'uns. - No, it did not stunt my growth.) My favorite coffees are pure Kona or Blue Mountain, but they are quite expensive and rarely available from coffee houses, though some independents will have Blue Mountain on occasion or will order the beans for me. Sometimes I can convince them to put several small crystals of sea salt in with the grounds when they brew it. Starbucks over roasts their beans, and they do it for good fiscal reasons. The over roasted beans have a longer shelf life and have fewer problems in shipping. Over roasting produces a darker and more acrid coffee with somewhat less caffeine. A darker look and an acrid taste does not equal a rich flavor. Good beans, properly roasted and brewed properly at the right temperature with the right flow, produce a rich, flavorful, highly drinkable, non acrid taste. FYI, Starbucks is not in the business of selling coffee any more than Kodak was ever in the business of selling cameras. They are in the business of selling lattes, mochas and various other made up drinks with Italian sounding names. These are drinks with coffee in them, but with so much extra stuff that the taste of the actual coffee is more like a condiment than the main course. As to Starbuck's coffee requiring an "acquired taste", keep in mind that anything that tastes like crap can become an acquired taste, even to the point that you may believe that you can't live without it. This explains Scot's (or scotch to some) whiskey. You may ask, "well how do you explain the great popularity of Starbuck's?" First, they have the best marketing since MacDonald's, and second, The common lemming effect. "Everyone thinks it's good so it must be good and if I say I don't like it, then I will betray my immaturity as a coffee connoisseur so I will drink it until I acquire a taste for it and when I finely get to the point where it no longer gags me, I'll tell everyone it's an 'acquired' taste thereby showing my sophistication regarding the world of gourmet coffee." I am currently typing this from "It's A Grind" where the coffee is smooth, rich and flavorful and where the wireless internet is totally free.

Regards,
Bob...
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"Don't be a lemming!" - R. Blakely

From: "frank theriault" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Bob aptly noted:
> It's an American peculiarity to equate high popularity with high
> quality.

Well, I can't dispute that. Popularity proves nothing. Witness McDonalds, Coca-Cola, and Budweiser. But as a lifelong coffee drinker who consumes upwards of a quart a day, I still contend that Starbucks is more drinkable than most. However, I didn't like it at first. The dark roast is definitely an acquired taste. I continued to drink ti because I found the one Starbucks that i frequent a pleasant place to spend an hour or two. Now I enjoy their coffee. Although I must add that I can make better coffee at home with Sumatra beans that I purchase in bulk and a simple coffee press. In any case this has wandered far off topic, and I'm sure it's taking far too much space.
Paul



You're right, Paul, this is getting more than a bit OT, but that never stopped me before! <g>

I'm far from an expert in coffee (or anything for that matter <g>),
but I'll tell you (and everyone else) something.  If you want good
coffee, buy green beans and roast them yourself.  It's quite easy,
doesn't take all that long, and one learns a bit about the whole
coffee roasting thing.  I can't tell beans from one country or region
to another.  But, there's nothing as good as coffee from fresh (as in
5 minutes ago) roasted beans, freshly ground, brewed properly in a
French Press coffeemaker.

cheers,
frank




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