[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In a message dated 2/8/2005 9:49:32 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:Thats ok, I just had bookmarked your discussion because I thought that it sounded like you were mixing up the concept of reality with the concept of truth (subjective).
Are you confusing belief with reality maybe? What we perceive, what we believe, and what is reality may be 3 different things. But it would be very strange to think there is no reality without a perception of it or a belief of it.
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Don't think I said that. But what we believe may affect reality.
I don't want to discuss this:
1.) I don't have time. 2.) With difficult concepts, it takes me a long time to verbalize what I mean -- or verbalize effectively enough that I know I am making my conceptualization come across clearly. 3.) I don't turn my verbalizations of difficult concepts into writing easily. It takes a lot of pain and effort on my part to write that kind of thing down effectively. See 3. 4.) I don't have time. 5.) I don't need my belief system to be nailed down in every small detail for my own satisfaction. My belief system is coherent enough for me, and I do not need for anyone else to believe it and I do not need to defend it.Its been a long time, but I remember alot of mysticism in it, rather similar to what you are saying. Once you get into that realm, then its hard to argue anything outside of belief systems.
6.) Read The Tao of Physics by Fritjof Capra instead of trying to debate me.
7.) I don't debate (at least anymore and at least not on the Net). I've been involved in too many knock down and drag out usenet/list -- mainly usenet -- "conversations" to find it amusing or entertaining anymore. I also think debate about religion/politics/belief systems to be fairly pointless.
I agree, let everyone believe what they want to.
HTH!, Marnie aka Doe
Thanks,
rg