WP, go HERE: http://www.pdml.net/dbrewer/p4.html
And READ it.
6th line down on the right.

Don

> -----Original Message-----
> From: WP Wood [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Saturday, April 16, 2005 5:28 PM
> To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
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> > pentax-discuss-d Digest                             Volume 05 :
> Issue 805
> >
> > Today's Topics:
> >   Re: PESO - Mungo Lunette              [ Boris Liberman
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ]
> >   Re: PESO: Others 2005 - 16p - GDG     [ Boris Liberman
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ]
> >   PAW: Old and Wise                     [ Boris Liberman
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ]
> >   OT: Journey of Man                    [ Bob W <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ]
> >   RE: PESO PAW - Fire Eating Drummer    [ "Markus Maurer"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ]
> >   Re: OT: Journey of Man                [ David Savage
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ]
> >   RE: ist-D Focus Woes, Please Help!    [ "Don Sanderson"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]
> >   RE: PESO: Others 2005 - 16p - GDG     [ "Markus Maurer"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ]
> >   RE: Old and Wise                      [ "Markus Maurer"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ]
> >   Re: PAW: Old and Wise                 [ Keith Whaley
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]
> >   Re: IR with *istDS                    [ "Greg Cooper"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]
> >   Re: Gone Again and a GFM note         [ "John Francis"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ]
> >   Re: Hurrah for Shel Disrobing the Em  [ "John Francis"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ]
> >   Re: Where's Cotty?                    [ "John Francis"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ]
> >   Re: ist-D Focus Woes, Please Help!    [ "Peter J. Alling"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]
> >   Re: Demise of M/F                     [ Norman Baugher
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]
> >   Re: Just a couple of scanned shots f  [ Norman Baugher
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]
> >   Salgado speaks!                       [ Bob W <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ]
> >   Re: L plate for *istD                 [ "Kenneth Waller"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]
> >   Re: PESO - Mungo Lunette              [ "Kenneth Waller"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]
> >   RE:OT: Anybody know what this is?     [ "Collin Brendemuehl"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]
> >   Re: Others 2005 - 16p - GDG           [ "Kenneth Waller"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]
> >   Re: Where's Cotty?                    [ Keith Whaley
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]
> >   Re: Hurrah for Shel Disrobing the Em  [ "William Robb"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2005 20:31:32 +0200
> > From: Boris Liberman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
> > Subject: Re: PESO - Mungo Lunette
> > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
> > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
> >
> > Hi!
> >
> > > This is the result.  It's still not quite true to the original but
> > > it's getting there.
> > >
> > > Comments, of course, are welcome.  Click on the "i" icon for technical
> > > and other info.
> > >
> > >
> > > http://members.ozemail.com.au/~sgap/photos/paw/mungo-paw.html
> >
> > Brian, technicalities aside, this is lovely picture. If you dislike the
> > way this lab treats your films, you can always go to another one, but
> > that's totally unrelated story.
> >
> > Clear winner here.
> >
> > Boris
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2005 20:35:43 +0200
> > From: Boris Liberman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
> > Subject: Re: PESO: Others 2005 - 16p - GDG
> > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
> > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
> >
> > Hi!
> >
> > > Continuing work on a number of static, textural compositions ...
> > >
> > >   http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW5/16p.htm
> > >
> > > Comments always appreciated.
> >
> > It looks quite textural on my screen...
> >
> > I should say I like it more than the previous one of the series you
> > posted. However, I do remember it, so it wasn't bad at all anyway.
> >
> > You know, I realize you may have some kind of a goal with this series.
> > I've seen only few shots and it feels like I see pieces of a
> jigsaw that
> > I still cannot see as a whole... I am fascinated... In my own peculiar
> > way...
> >
> > Boris
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2005 20:38:14 +0200
> > From: Boris Liberman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
> > Subject: PAW: Old and Wise
> > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
> > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
> >
> > Hi!
> >
> > Went to shoot some macro today. Very little luck with rather constant
> > very soft but annoying breeze...
> >
> > My wife and daughter spotted this guy behind the window of the closed
> > restaurant. Perhaps I will make a print and hand it to the owners...
> >
> > http://www.flickr.com/photos/boris71/9571234/
> >
> > What do you say?
> >
> > Boris
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2005 18:42:00 +0100
> > From: Bob W <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
> > Subject: OT: Journey of Man
> > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > Many of you are probably as fascinated as I am by human origins, so
> > I'd like to post this animation which reconstructs the spread of
> > people out of Africa, according to current theory. It seems to match
> > the paths traced by Stephen Oppenheimer in his recent book.
> >
> > Warning: if you think it all started 6,000 years ago underneath an
> > apple tree you might not want to look at this.
> >
> > http://www.bradshawfoundation.com/journey/
> >
> > --
> > Cheers,
> >  Bob
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2005 19:47:49 +0200
> > From: "Markus Maurer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <pentax-discuss@pdml.net>
> > Subject: RE: PESO PAW - Fire Eating Drummer
> > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Content-Type: text/plain;
> >     charset="us-ascii"
> > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
> >
> > Hi Shel
> > the picture *and* its size is fine here with Avant Browser, 1 additional
> > search toolbar and 1280x960 resolution settings;-)
> > greetings
> > Markus
> >
> >
> > >
> > >>http://home.earthlink.net/~my-pics/firedrum.html
> > >>
> > >>Caught these entertainers on Market Street in San Francisco.
> They were
> > >>putting on quite a show.   Comments welcome.  If you'd care
> to comment,
> > >>please let me know if this size allows you to see the entire
> photo and the
> > >>caption without scrolling.  Pic is about 200K.
> > >>
> > >>Tech details: Leica M2, 35mm Summicron f/2.0, Tri-X in Ilford ID-11
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>Shel
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 01:47:54 +0800
> > From: David Savage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
> > Subject: Re: OT: Journey of Man
> > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
> > Content-Disposition: inline
> > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
> >
> > Very interesting Bob. Thanks for sharing.
> >
> > Dave S
> >
> > On 4/17/05, Bob W <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > Many of you are probably as fascinated as I am by human origins, so
> > > I'd like to post this animation which reconstructs the spread of
> > > people out of Africa, according to current theory. It seems to match
> > > the paths traced by Stephen Oppenheimer in his recent book.
> > >
> > > Warning: if you think it all started 6,000 years ago underneath an
> > > apple tree you might not want to look at this.
> > >
> > > http://www.bradshawfoundation.com/journey/
> > >
> > > --
> > > Cheers,
> > > Bob
> > >
> > >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2005 12:54:31 -0500
> > From: "Don Sanderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <pentax-discuss@pdml.net>
> > Subject: RE: ist-D Focus Woes, Please Help!
> > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Content-Type: text/plain;
> >     charset="us-ascii"
> > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
> >
> > Never so much as bumped it. (Yet)
> > The wierd thing is with 70mm and longer lenses
> > I can manual or auto focus with little problem.
> > Only the shorter ones, which should be easier to
> > focus, give me frequent trouble.
> > And as far as wide open goes I just took 6 shots
> > with the FA50/1.7 at F8 and as near as I can tell
> > (with the increased DOF) focus was spot on each
> > time.
> > As far as the manual shots being worse, the in-
> > focus indicator agreed with my eye every time.
> >
> > Wierd! :-/
> >
> > I need to take the 5n out and see if I'm
> > blind, or what.
> >
> > Don
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Paul Stenquist [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: Saturday, April 16, 2005 11:27 AM
> > > To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
> > > Subject: Re: ist-D Focus Woes, Please Help!
> > >
> > >
> > > Hmmm. Well, the autofocus shots are a lot closer than the
> manual focus
> > > shots. Other than that, it's hard to draw many conclusions
> from this. I
> > > guess you should have your camera checked out. It seems to be causing
> > > you a lot of problems and aggravation. Since the autofocus  shots are
> > > closer than the manual, I suppose the mirror is a suspect. Have you
> > > ever dropped the camera?
> > > Paul
> > > On Apr 16, 2005, at 11:46 AM, Don Sanderson wrote:
> > >
> > > > http://www.donsauction.com/pdml/50web/index.htm
> > > >
> > > > This is a small gallery of 11 shots I took this morning.
> > > > The last one (FocusPoint.jpg) shows the point I had
> > > > the camera, in spot focus mode, aimed at.
> > > > The first 5 (141-145.jpg) are manually focused shots
> > > > taken with the A50/1.4 at 1/2000 and 1.4.
> > > > The next 5 are taken with the FA50/1.7 at 1/2000 and
> > > > 1.7. I allowed this lens to autofocus.
> > > > Mounted on a solid tripod, on concrete,
> > > > 2sec mirror prefire.
> > > > Focus wanders all over.
> > > >
> > > > Technique the same for all, hold my hand in front of
> > > > the 1.7 to de-focus, allow it to focus and shoot.
> > > > The 1.4 I manually de-focused, re-focused and shot.
> > > > Shot as large .jpg, cropped and 'auto-levels' in PS
> > > > Elements. No sharpening in-camera or in PS.
> > > > Gallery created in Elements.
> > > >
> > > > This seems to happen frequently with any 50mm or
> > > > shorter lens, especially wide open. The problem
> > > > is probably just more evident with shallow DOF.
> > > >
> > > > ***ALL of the shots looked sharp in the viewfinder!***
> > > > If they didn't because AF 'missed' I de-focused and
> > > > tried again.
> > > >
> > > > Any ideas? I thought maybe the mirror wasn't
> > > > returning properly each time, throwing the
> > > > viewfinder image off, that doesn't look to be
> > > > possible though.
> > > >
> > > > *****HELP!!!!****
> > > >
> > > > Don
> > > >
> > >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2005 19:59:46 +0200
> > From: "Markus Maurer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <pentax-discuss@pdml.net>
> > Subject: RE: PESO: Others 2005 - 16p - GDG
> > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Content-Type: text/plain;
> >     charset="us-ascii"
> > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
> >
> > Hi Godfrey
> > I would use this photo as a nice (text) background (for a flyer
> maybe or the
> > web) .
> > Alone it asks for a little bit more - for me.
> > greetings
> > Markus
> >
> >
> > >>Subject: PESO: Others 2005 - 16p - GDG
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>Continuing work on a number of static, textural compositions ...
> > >>
> > >>   http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW5/16p.htm
> > >>
> > >>Comments always appreciated.
> > >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2005 20:06:53 +0200
> > From: "Markus Maurer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <pentax-discuss@pdml.net>
> > Subject: RE: Old and Wise
> > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Content-Type: text/plain;
> >     charset="iso-8859-1"
> > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
> >
> > Hi Boris
> > I like this photo a lot but not its "mini size" on Flickr ;-)
> > It would be even nicer if the record was played.
> >
> > Giving prints to the owner or subject is always very nice and helps us
> > all.....
> >
> > greetings
> > Markus
> >
> >
> >
> > >>-----Original Message-----
> > >>From: Boris Liberman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >>Sent: Saturday, April 16, 2005 8:38 PM
> > >>To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
> > >>Subject: PAW: Old and Wise
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>Hi!
> > >>
> > >>Went to shoot some macro today. Very little luck with rather constant
> > >>very soft but annoying breeze...
> > >>
> > >>My wife and daughter spotted this guy behind the window of the closed
> > >>restaurant. Perhaps I will make a print and hand it to the owners...
> > >>
> > >>http://www.flickr.com/photos/boris71/9571234/
> > >>
> > >>What do you say?
> > >>
> > >>Boris
> > >>
> > >>
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2005 11:08:25 -0700
> > From: Keith Whaley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
> > Subject: Re: PAW: Old and Wise
> > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
> > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
> >
> > Trouble connecting to Flickr...
> > I'll try again later, just in case...
> >
> > keith whaley
> >
> > Boris Liberman wrote:
> > > Hi!
> > >
> > > Went to shoot some macro today. Very little luck with rather constant
> > > very soft but annoying breeze...
> > >
> > > My wife and daughter spotted this guy behind the window of the closed
> > > restaurant. Perhaps I will make a print and hand it to the owners...
> > >
> > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/boris71/9571234/
> > >
> > > What do you say?
> > >
> > > Boris
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2005 12:20:23 -0600
> > From: "Greg Cooper" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <pentax-discuss@pdml.net>
> > Subject: Re: IR with *istDS
> > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Content-Type: text/plain;
> >     format=flowed;
> >     charset="iso-8859-1";
> >     reply-type=original
> > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
> >
> > Here is an infrared page with the Ds mentioned in comparison with other
> > cameras and he also has some samples from the ds and tips.
> >
> http://www.jr-worldwi.de/photo/index.html?Pentax_ist_DS_ir_sensiti
> vity.html
> >
> >
> > Greg Cooper
> > Edmonton, Alberta
> > Canada
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2005 14:21:18 -0400 (EDT)
> > From: "John Francis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
> > Subject: Re: Gone Again and a GFM note
> > Message-Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
> >
> > Keith Whaley mused:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > John Francis wrote:
> > >
> > > > William Robb mused:
> > > >
> > > >>That's just your country, and it isn't supposed to happen
> until 2006 IIRC.
> > >
> > > > By 2008.  Although as the Pres. has just woken up to what it is he
> > > > signed into law, and publicly stated he thinks it's a bad idea, I
> > > > rather suspect that after the 60-day public review period called
> > > > for in the legislation this provision will quietly get dropped.
> > >
> > > ???
> > >
> > > I guess I'm going to have to read up on this little news item.
> > > I've pretty much ignored all mention of it up to now, since I see no
> > > imminent trips for me on the horizon, in either direction!
> > >
> > > You mean it simply won't be enforced?
> > > Clarify what you believe please...
> >
> > The legislation (to make passports required at the US borders
> > with Mexico and with Canada, instead of just a simple photo ID)
> > specifically contains a requirement for a 60-day period for the
> > public to comment.  Presumably at the end of that time there
> > will be another vote; I'd expect the (unpublicised) result to
> > be that the proposal gets the 'no' vote, and is allowed to
> > slide off into obscurity.
> >
> > It's of little interest to citizens of other foreign countries;
> > for them, passports are already required.  I'm not sure whether
> > my resident alien card (aka green card) is sufficient; I always
> > use my passport, just to be sure.
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2005 14:29:25 -0400 (EDT)
> > From: "John Francis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
> > Subject: Re: Hurrah for Shel Disrobing the Emperor
> > Message-Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
> >
> > "(That is) Nonsense!" is just as much a sentence as "Damn (you)"
> >
> >
> > Paul Stenquist mused:
> > >
> > > Bob wins. "Nonsense" isn't an English sentence. However, "Damn" is a
> > > complete sentence if the word "da,m" is used as a verb and
> the doer of
> > > the action is an understood "you."
> > > On Apr 16, 2005, at 10:08 AM, Bob W wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > >>>> It's pretty hard to parse a one word sentence.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Nonsense!
> > > >
> > > >> At least you give more than one syllable to work with.
> > > >
> > > > Damn.
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Cheers,
> > > >  Bob
> > > >
> > >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2005 14:31:11 -0400 (EDT)
> > From: "John Francis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
> > Subject: Re: Where's Cotty?
> > Message-Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
> >
> > Keith Whaley mused:
> > >
> > > I read in today's paper of the imminent breakup of MG Rover.
> > > Last large car maker in the UK.
> > >
> > > Sad that!
> > > They said some 5000 will lose their jobs.
> > >
> > > Will Rover be able to survive on it's own?
> >
> >
> > There is no "Rover" as a separate entity.
> >
> > Land Rover hasn't been part of the Rover group for some time.
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2005 14:31:19 -0400
> > From: "Peter J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
> > Subject: Re: ist-D Focus Woes, Please Help!
> > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
> > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
> >
> > I don't suspect the mirror, autofocus is as dependent on the mirror as
> > is manual focus.  However the autofocus in Pentax cameras is below the
> > mirror and follows a different light path than the view through the
> > pentaprism.  I suspect that the ground glass is in a different
> effective
> > plane than the autofocus sensor and both are out of sync with
> the sensor.
> >
> > Paul Stenquist wrote:
> >
> > > Hmmm. Well, the autofocus shots are a lot closer than the
> manual focus
> > > shots. Other than that, it's hard to draw many conclusions from this.
> > > I guess you should have your camera checked out. It seems to be
> > > causing you a lot of problems and aggravation. Since the autofocus
> > > shots are closer than the manual, I suppose the mirror is a suspect.
> > > Have you ever dropped the camera?
> > > Paul
> > > On Apr 16, 2005, at 11:46 AM, Don Sanderson wrote:
> > >
> > >> http://www.donsauction.com/pdml/50web/index.htm
> > >>
> > >> This is a small gallery of 11 shots I took this morning.
> > >> The last one (FocusPoint.jpg) shows the point I had
> > >> the camera, in spot focus mode, aimed at.
> > >> The first 5 (141-145.jpg) are manually focused shots
> > >> taken with the A50/1.4 at 1/2000 and 1.4.
> > >> The next 5 are taken with the FA50/1.7 at 1/2000 and
> > >> 1.7. I allowed this lens to autofocus.
> > >> Mounted on a solid tripod, on concrete,
> > >> 2sec mirror prefire.
> > >> Focus wanders all over.
> > >>
> > >> Technique the same for all, hold my hand in front of
> > >> the 1.7 to de-focus, allow it to focus and shoot.
> > >> The 1.4 I manually de-focused, re-focused and shot.
> > >> Shot as large .jpg, cropped and 'auto-levels' in PS
> > >> Elements. No sharpening in-camera or in PS.
> > >> Gallery created in Elements.
> > >>
> > >> This seems to happen frequently with any 50mm or
> > >> shorter lens, especially wide open. The problem
> > >> is probably just more evident with shallow DOF.
> > >>
> > >> ***ALL of the shots looked sharp in the viewfinder!***
> > >> If they didn't because AF 'missed' I de-focused and
> > >> tried again.
> > >>
> > >> Any ideas? I thought maybe the mirror wasn't
> > >> returning properly each time, throwing the
> > >> viewfinder image off, that doesn't look to be
> > >> possible though.
> > >>
> > >> *****HELP!!!!****
> > >>
> > >> Don
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war.
> > During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings
> > and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on
> during peacetime.
> >     --P.J. O'Rourke
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2005 11:50:23 -0700
> > From: Norman Baugher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
> > Subject: Re: Demise of M/F
> > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
> > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
> >
> > LOL. Just remember Cesar, if you're going to get a 6x7 make sure it's
> > NOT a pretty one like Bob's, but rather one slightly brassed like
> > mine... And I do not plan on modeling this year, I fear I've aged past
> > my prime.
> > Norm (get out of my van) B.
> >
> > Cesar wrote:
> >
> > > Norm!
> > >
> > > Muito bem!
> > > I have not had the time, but I am still looking for a 6x7 kit to join
> > > you guys at GFMtn.  I don't want to mooch from others (thanks Bob)
> > > this trip.  I don't want people to avoid me - for that reason
> at least
> > > <vbg>  Hmmm, how many 35mm cameras would be a good deposit to use a
> > > 6x7???
> > >
> > > Bowing to my superior in model shoot posing,
> > >
> > > Cisar
> > > Panama City, Florida
> > >
> > > Norman Baugher wrote:
> > >
> > >> HAR! That's my boy....
> > >> Verdade.
> > >> Norm
> > >>
> > >> Bill Lawlor wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> I saw a presentation a few months ago by Sebastao Salgado. <snip>
> > >>> When asked about digital he said "There is no black and white in
> > >>> digital. Converted color images don't compare with true black and
> > >>> white."
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2005 11:52:06 -0700
> > From: Norman Baugher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
> > Subject: Re: Just a couple of scanned shots from my Honduran trip.
> > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
> > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
> >
> > Cool stuff, but the colors seem a bit wanky on my monitor (not
> the lizard).
> > Norm
> >
> > Cesar wrote:
> >
> > > Before I sit down to go through another 14 rolls of film from
> my trip,
> > > I figure I would put up a couple of early scans.
> > > The two shots up at the moment are
> > >
> > >
> http://groups.msn.com/MyRugbyPictures/scannedhonduras.msnw?action=
> ShowPhoto&PhotoID=15
> > >
> > > and
> > >
> > >
> http://groups.msn.com/MyRugbyPictures/scannedhonduras.msnw?action=
> ShowPhoto&PhotoID=16
> > >
> > >
> > > Both shots should have been taken with the 77 Limited lens on an LX
> > > and a monopod.
> > >
> > > This lens has taken its share of use and travel in its life with me.
> > > This trip was just a bit much for it.  Its focusing is loose.  I just
> > > have to get up the courage to go into it - any hints?
> > >
> > > I really am going to scan, really!!
> > >
> > > Cisar
> > > Panama City, Florida
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2005 20:07:02 +0100
> > From: Bob W <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
> > Subject: Salgado speaks!
> > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > there's a very long feature about Salgado in the current edition of
> > the New Yorker.
> >
> > Their website has a recording and slide show:
> >
> http://www.newyorker.com/online/covers/articles/050418onco_covers_gallery
> >
> > --
> > Cheers,
> >  Bob
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2005 15:06:22 -0400
> > From: "Kenneth Waller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <pentax-discuss@pdml.net>
> > Subject: Re: L plate for *istD
> > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Content-Type: text/plain;
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> >
> > > And there is no reference to *istD compatible L bracket in Kirk site.
> > Call them and tell them what you have and want. The L bracket I
>  got was not
> > *ist D specific, it was for any camera that had one of their arca swiss
> > mounting plates.
> >
> > Kenneth Waller
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Ramesh Kumar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <pentax-discuss@pdml.net>
> > Sent: Saturday, April 16, 2005 1:44 AM
> > Subject: Re: L plate for *istD
> >
> >
> > > Herb,
> > >             Thanks for sharing your experience. I have SLIK
> 700DX tripod &
> > I
> > > want to make sure RRS & works with my existing ball head.  My QR plate
> > looks
> > > like this..
> > > http://www.thkphoto.com/products/slik/photos-t/SLIK_6125QUICK.jpg
> > >
> > > I think I need the fallowing, ls let me know if this is
> really the right
> > > stuff...
> > > 1) RRS Pano clamp ( PCL-1 3/8)   & RRS Rails (MPR-CL II )
> > > 2) Kirk L bracket for *istd
> > >
> > > RRS Pano clamp comes in two versions PCL - 1 3/8 and 1/4"-20 version.
> > > I think I should go for  PCL - 1 3/8.
> > >
> > > And there is no reference to *istD compatible L bracket in Kirk site.
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > > Ramesh
> > >
> > >
> > > >From: "Herb Chong" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > >Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
> > > >To: <pentax-discuss@pdml.net>
> > > >Subject: Re:  L plate for *istD
> > > >Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 19:28:56 -0400
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> > > >
> > > >that's not just an L plate. i have the Kirk Photo Big L mentioned
> > elsewhere
> > > >and don't use it. it is designed for a much larger camera
> and sticks out
> > > >way too far to the right when mounted. also, it blocks all
> of the normal
> > > >access ports needed to change batteries, etc. the Really Right Stuff
> > image
> > > >you show requires an Arca Swiss plate mounted on the body.
> RRS doesn't
> > make
> > > >such a plate, but Kirk does for the *istD. i have a pair of the RRS
> > > >panorama clamps and the RRS B-16 adapter plate to do highly accurate
> > > >panoramas. the B-16 plate attaches and removes easily with no tools,
> > while
> > > >the Kirk Big L plate requires a hex key to install and remove.
> > > >
> > > >Herb....
> > > >----- Original Message ----- From: "Ramesh Kumar"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > >To: <pentax-discuss@pdml.net>
> > > >Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 10:12 AM
> > > >Subject: L plate for *istD
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >>How to mount the *istD on tripd in prortarit mode like this?
> > > >>http://www.reallyrightstuff.com/pano/horiz/horiz_panos_L-plate.jpg
> > > >>
> > > >>I thought of using L plate. Pls let me know, if any company
> makes it.
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2005 15:11:13 -0400
> > From: "Kenneth Waller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <pentax-discuss@pdml.net>
> > Subject: Re: PESO - Mungo Lunette
> > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Content-Type: text/plain;
> >     charset="iso-8859-1"
> > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
> >
> > Nice capture. Good exposure & composition. The sky looks somewhat unreal
> > tho.
> >
> > Kenneth Waller
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Brian Walters" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <pentax-discuss@pdml.net>
> > Sent: Saturday, April 16, 2005 7:54 AM
> > Subject: PESO - Mungo Lunette
> >
> >
> > > I suppose this should be a PESMOS (Photo Every Six Months or So) but
> > > I'll try to contribute more frequently in future......
> > >
> > > This photo was taken several years ago at Mungo National Park in south
> > > western New South Wales, an area of spectacular landforms and
> > > historical importance.  I was only there for two days, one of which
> > > was a howling dust storm so I only managed a few photos.  This is
> > > about the best of them.
> > >
> > > I had it scanned to Kodak Photo CD format but the result was truly
> > > awful - dark and murky with all of the colour leached out.  I tried
> > > to improve it in an image processing program with little success so I
> > > forgot about it until I rediscovered it recently while looking for
> > > another image on the CD.   As my skills with Photoshop Elements are
> > > gradually improving, I decided to have another go at restoring some
> > > of the impact of the original slide.
> > >
> > > This is the result.  It's still not quite true to the original but
> > > it's getting there.
> > >
> > > Comments, of course, are welcome.  Click on the "i" icon for technical
> > > and other info.
> > >
> > >
> > > http://members.ozemail.com.au/~sgap/photos/paw/mungo-paw.html
> > >
> > >
> > > Cheers
> > >
> > > Brian
> > >
> > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> > >
> > > Brian Walters
> > > Western Sydney, Australia
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2005 15:17:30 -0400
> > From: "Collin Brendemuehl" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <pentax-discuss@pdml.net>
> > Subject: RE:OT: Anybody know what this is?
> > Message-Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> >
> > In that type of shutter, it looks like wide angle lens for a
> 2x3 (or thereabouts) press camera.
> >  It certainly has the age.
> >
> > Sincerely,
> >
> > C. Brendemuehl
> >
> > Caveat:  This information should be viewed critically.  It may
> merit as much technical
> > excellence as a CBS news report.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________________________________________
> > Sent via the WebMail system at mail.safe-t.net
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2005 15:19:35 -0400
> > From: "Kenneth Waller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <pentax-discuss@pdml.net>
> > Subject: Re: Others 2005 - 16p - GDG
> > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Content-Type: text/plain;
> >     charset="iso-8859-1"
> > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
> >
> > Godfrey, my only comment for what its worth is that the inclusion of the
> > background in the ULH corner is distracting. Perhaps it lends itself to
> > something you're trying to convey, but taken as an image of a
> weathered wood
> > fence and gate with hinge - its distracting.
> >
> > Kenneth Waller
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Godfrey DiGiorgi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "PDML" <pentax-discuss@pdml.net>
> > Sent: Saturday, April 16, 2005 12:25 PM
> > Subject: PESO: Others 2005 - 16p - GDG
> >
> >
> > > Continuing work on a number of static, textural compositions ...
> > >
> > >    http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW5/16p.htm
> > >
> > > Comments always appreciated.
> > >
> > > enjoy
> > > Godfrey
> > >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2005 12:35:24 -0700
> > From: Keith Whaley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
> > Subject: Re: Where's Cotty?
> > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
> > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
> >
> > John Francis wrote:
> > > Keith Whaley mused:
> > >
> > >>I read in today's paper of the imminent breakup of MG Rover.
> > >>Last large car maker in the UK.
> > >>
> > >>Sad that!
> > >>They said some 5000 will lose their jobs.
> > >>
> > >>Will Rover be able to survive on it's own?
> >
> > > There is no "Rover" as a separate entity.
> > >
> > > Land Rover hasn't been part of the Rover group for some time.
> >
> > Uhhh, you're telling me, Rover as a CAR does not exist anymore? Nobody
> > makes one? Of any kind?
> >
> > Same for Land Rover? Are they going to have to recall Cotty's?  Oh dear!
> >
> > Hmmm.  Next thing you'll be tryingto tell me is that there's no MG
> > anymore!  Soighhh.
> >
> > Good thing I've got several books describing (and picturing) those good
> > ol' days, or all my memories would be gone!
> >
> > keith
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2005 13:27:16 -0600
> > From: "William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <pentax-discuss@pdml.net>
> > Subject: Re: Hurrah for Shel Disrobing the Emperor
> > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Content-Type: text/plain;
> >     format=flowed;
> >     charset="iso-8859-1";
> >     reply-type=original
> > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Bob W" Subject: Re: Hurrah for Shel Disrobing the Emperor
> >
> >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > >>>> It's pretty hard to parse a one word sentence.
> > >>>
> > >>> Nonsense!
> > >
> > >> At least you give more than one syllable to work with.
> > >
> > > Damn.
> >
> > At least you give more than two letters to work with.....
> >
> > William Robb
> >
> > --------------------------------
> > End of pentax-discuss-d Digest V05 Issue #805
> > *********************************************
> >
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