Bob,

Your knowledge of English usage and the language's history never fails to
astound me.  Keep it coming :-)

regards,
Anthony Farr 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bob W [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> Hi,
> >>>
> >>> Which begs the question . . .
> >>
> >>
> >> This seems to be my nitpick of the day.
> >>
> >> To beg a question means to pretend the question doesn't arise,
> >> not to call for an answer to the question.
> >>
> 
> 
> > I'm with you, John - I actually won a bet on this the other day.
> > Unfortunately it's become common usage, at least with media people in
Oz.
> 
> Well, really there are 2 ways of using the phrase - informally and
> formally.
> 
> Informally, or colloquially, people use it to mean 'raise the question'.
> This use may be based on a mistaken understanding of the formal use, but
> it's now so common that it's never misunderstood in context. We should
> now treat it as perfectly correct, in my opinion, because it
> communicates what is intended. We don't have to like it though.
> 
> Formally the phrase belongs in the world of philosophy and critical
> thinking, and means that you are assuming the point that is at issue,
> which is circular reasoning.
> 
> People who understand the formal use of the phrase usually avoid the
> colloquial use. But if you were to use it 'correctly' in an informal
> context, there's a better-than-even chance that you'd be misunderstood.
> So perhaps it's best avoided altogether unless you're in a seminar with
> a bunch of philosophers.
> 
> --
> Cheers,
>  Bob

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