The equivalent to grain in the digital world for me is pixel noise, not
pixel edges. I too prefer the grain but probably for the same reasons I
prefer the crack noises of old LPs to MP3 compression distortion.

On Thu, 2005-06-30 at 17:39, Bob Blakely wrote:
> Yes and no. Much of an image is the result of image processing in our 
> retinas and brains. When we get to the edge where grain is barely 
> perceptible or where individual pixels are barely perceptible the brain 
> weighs in. At the edge, at the same resolution, same color rendering and 
> same contrast, a random grain pattern in a photographic print is perceived a 
> bit differently than a regular, pixilated pattern from a sensor. To my eye 
> (and I can only speak for my eye) the apparent "sharpness" and "naturalness" 
> of the random grain is better. I attribute this to my brain being able to 
> interpolate "true" edges better from random input than from a regularized 
> pattern that causes my eye to follow a false path until the jump to the next 
> pixel. This despite the variable mixing of pixel colors at the "digital" 
> edge.
> 
> I probably haven't explained my perception well, but I tried.
> 
> Regards,
> Bob...
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> 
> From: "Steve Jolly" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
> 
> > mike wilson wrote:
> >>> "My personal testing (to be published soon) shows that a 5MP sensor
> >>> with dedicated optics can match the performance of a 35mm negative
> >>> of superb quality coupled to a lens of equally superb quality."
> >>
> >> To do what, though?  Produce prints up to a certain size, arguably.
> >> You can do that with an even smaller sensor, although the print size
> >> will change.  The statement is meaningless.
> >
> > I don't understand the importance of print size.  If the two systems 
> > capture the same amount of information about a scene, then they will 
> > produce prints of the same quality at any size.  I don't think the 
> > statement is meaningless.
> 
> 

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