I am very sorry about one thing. By mistake I sent my mail on list. That was not my intention, not at all! As I said I don't want a debate.
I just wanted to let Keith know how I felt about his arguments. I want to underline one word in the last sentence; felt. I don't claim my feelings as an absolute truth. And I find absolutely no point in discussing this on list. Before ending this post, let me make one thing clear. I am just as shocked, scared and angry about the bombs as anybody on this list. I am really SORRY ABOUT MY MISTAKE. Can we please just leave it there? Attention to my new signature, please. Tim 110% harmless (just plain Norwegian.) -----Original Message----- From: Tim Øsleby [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 15. juli 2005 23:51 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: RE: OT: London Horror Keith. I don't want to start a debate, there is no point, and we simply disagree. But I feel strongly for saying this: Statements like yours scares the shit out of me. I also find it a bit offensive. Let me add. I do sympathise deeply with the victims of the events, and I'm not a Muslim. I'm just a thinking feeling human being. IMO; there is little difference between the ideas you talk about, and the actual terror. Killing people is killing people, whatever the reasons might be. This said: I'm mostly harmless. What I'm trying to say now is; I want to have a good relation with everybody on this list, including you. I just had to get this out of my system. Ok? Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian.) Never underestimate the power of stupidity in large crowds (Very freely after Arthur C. Clarke, or some other clever guy) -----Original Message----- From: keithw [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 7. juli 2005 21:04 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: OT: London Horror Jim Hemenway wrote: > > > Still if our governments were truely making war on terror those guys > > would be to busy ducking and dodging to do things like that. Instead we > > have some politicians' personal agenda. > > Absolutely correct! > > Jim If you guys think so... To me that's just so many meadow muffins. Amrchair generals that know nothing about how to fight an insurgent war, driven by a wildly aberrant religious fanatics... No, them, not us... We may still need a reprise of the Crusades (except with no Christian banners,) to finally wipe them out. Two salient facts, one is you MUST wipe the extremist, fatalistic Muslims out, or like Medusa, they keep growing back: and two, while our (the civilized world's) goals are to live and enjoy life, theirs is to die and see if what they've been lied to about is really true.... No lie...we've got years and years to go, to win THIS particular war. The first thing we ought to do is declare an actual WAR! Which we've not yet done. Make it a class-action suit, so it catches all the bad guys. Quite unfortunately, the majorly pussy Liberal-leaning American public will never stand for a proper effort. Nothing like an effete citizenry to keep your country strong and on an even keel. Uh huh. We, the U.S., might as well get used to being thought of like the French, militarily. Start things but too chicken-s*** to finish it properly. WE let the civilians run the war. Just like 'Nam. And you know how that turned out! Our troops are still performing very well, but it's their mommas that will bring them home before the time is right. And the chicken-s*** legislators will be the ones who are listening to the whining mommas, and THEY will see to it that funding is cut, and the troops are brought home ~ much too early. There goes the old reputation for being one of the world's premier fighting forces. Down the tubes. WE need legislators with some balls. Sadly, we don't have enough of them. keith whaley > Graywolf wrote: > > > Still if our governments were truely making war on terror those guys > would be to busy ducking and dodging to do things like that. Instead we > have some politicians' personal agenda. > > > > I am glad everybody I know over there (mostly list folks) are OK. My > symphathy to those who have lost loved ones. > > > > graywolf
