Hi Shel, I just did a right click "Save picture as" on both of the images. The saved versions contain the expected EXIF data in PS Elements 2.0. Don't know why you can't see it. I've followed this debate as to which was which with some amusement, as the EXIF data made it obvious. ;-)
Don > -----Original Message----- > From: Shel Belinkoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, July 22, 2005 6:48 PM > To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net > Subject: Re: Theory of Equivalency > > > This is weird. Neither Irfan nor PS find any EXIF in the posted image on > my machine. Oh well ... life is filled with amazing happenstance ;-)) > > Shel > > > > [Original Message] > > From: P. J. Alling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <pentax-discuss@pdml.net> > > Date: 7/22/2005 4:43:16 PM > > Subject: Re: Theory of Equivalency > > > > This is the information that ifran view extracts from file 18mm.jpg > > File: - D:\temp images\18mm.jpg > > > > Looks exactly like the exif you posted > > > > Make - PENTAX Corporation > > Model - PENTAX *ist DS > > Orientation - Top left > > XResolution - 72 > > YResolution - 72 > > ResolutionUnit - Inch > > Software - Adobe Photoshop CS Windows > > DateTime - 2005:07:21 05:23:01 > > YCbCrPositioning - Co-Sited > > ExifOffset - 604 > > ExposureTime - 1/4 seconds > > FNumber - 0.00 > > ExposureProgram - Manual control > > ISOSpeedRatings - 400 > > ExifVersion - 0221 > > DateTimeOriginal - 2005:07:16 13:39:16 > > DateTimeDigitized - 2005:07:16 13:39:16 > > ComponentsConfiguration - YCbCr > > ExposureBiasValue - 0.00 > > MeteringMode - Center weighted average > > Flash - Not fired, compulsory flash mode > > FocalLength - 0 mm > > FlashPixVersion - 0100 > > ColorSpace - Uncalibrated > > ExifImageWidth - 600 > > ExifImageHeight - 399 > > SensingMethod - One-chip color area sensor > > FileSource - Other > > SceneType - Other > > CustomRendered - Normal process > > ExposureMode - Manual > > WhiteBalance - Manual > > FocalLengthIn35mmFilm - 0 mm > > SceneCaptureType - Standard > > Contrast - Normal > > Saturation - Normal > > Sharpness - Normal > > SubjectDistanceRange - Distant view > > > > the information for 28mm.jpg is this > > > > File: - D:\temp images\28mm.jpg > > > > Orientation - Top left > > XResolution - 72 > > YResolution - 72 > > ResolutionUnit - Inch > > Software - Adobe Photoshop CS Windows > > DateTime - 2005:07:21 05:24:01 > > ExifOffset - 164 > > ColorSpace - Uncalibrated > > ExifImageWidth - 600 > > ExifImageHeight - 385 > > > > > > > > Shel Belinkoff wrote: > > > > >I don't understand this. The images that I posted had the EXIF > information > > >stripped out of them when I used the Photoshop SFW feature. No EXIF > > >information appears when i run the posted images through PS or > Irfanview. > > >How then, can anyone say that they read the EXIF data in the images? > > > > > >That said, looking at the original image from the istDs, there's plenty > of > > >EXIF data, or at least what I understand EXIF data to be: > > > > > >File: - D:\N thru Z\San Francisco July 16, 2005 with Patsy\JPEG's from > > >Patsy's istDs\2005July16\IMGP0376.JPG > > > > > >Make - PENTAX Corporation > > >Model - PENTAX *ist DS > > >Orientation - Top left > > >XResolution - 72 > > >YResolution - 72 > > >ResolutionUnit - Inch > > >Software - *ist DS Ver 1.00 > > >DateTime - 2005:07:16 13:39:16 > > >YCbCrPositioning - Co-Sited > > >ExifOffset - 602 > > >ExposureTime - 1/4 seconds > > >FNumber - 0.00 > > >ExposureProgram - Manual control > > >ISOSpeedRatings - 400 > > >ExifVersion - 0221 > > >DateTimeOriginal - 2005:07:16 13:39:16 > > >DateTimeDigitized - 2005:07:16 13:39:16 > > >ComponentsConfiguration - YCbCr > > >ExposureBiasValue - 0.00 > > >MeteringMode - Center weighted average > > >Flash - Not fired, compulsory flash mode > > >FocalLength - 0 mm > > >FlashPixVersion - 0100 > > >ColorSpace - sRGB > > >ExifImageWidth - 3008 > > >ExifImageHeight - 2000 > > >InteroperabilityOffset - 56338 > > >SensingMethod - One-chip color area sensor > > >FileSource - Other > > >SceneType - Other > > >CustomRendered - Normal process > > >ExposureMode - Manual > > >WhiteBalance - Manual > > >FocalLengthIn35mmFilm - 0 mm > > >SceneCaptureType - Standard > > >Contrast - Normal > > >Saturation - Normal > > >Sharpness - Normal > > >SubjectDistanceRange - Distant view > > > > > >Maker Note (Vendor): - > > > > > >I don't think I said the WB was set to Tungsten - I was told it was set > to > > >Flash. IAC, whatever it was, I didn't set it, so I don't really know > what > > >it was first hand. > > > > > >Shel > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>[Original Message] > > >>From: P. J. Alling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >>To: <pentax-discuss@pdml.net> > > >>Date: 7/22/2005 2:34:44 PM > > >>Subject: Re: Theory of Equivalency > > >> > > >>The lens used was a SMC P 18mm f3.8. In other words a [K] > lens. There > > >>will be no exif information since the lens doesn't communicate any > > >>information to the camera, unless you think the *ist-Ds can read > minds... > > >> > > >>Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >>>On Jul 22, 2005, at 12:51 PM, Shel Belinkoff wrote: > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>>>It's also interesting to note that no sharpening was done > on either > > >>>>image. > > >>>>The one from the istDs was made with standard sharpening and other > > >>>>standard > > >>>>settings and the scanned film was just a straight scan > -push the scan > > >>>>button, let 'er roll - and no sharpening of any sort was used > > >>>>anywhere in > > >>>>the process. > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>The image from the DS was certainly not captured with standard > > >>>settings. Otherwise, the EXIF information (easily visible in Pentax > > >>>Browser, EXIF-O-Matic, Photoshop CS2, and iView Media Pro) > would have > > >>>had lens name, aperture, and other information, and it would > not have > > >>>had Manual exposure, CW Averaging and other non-default settings. > > >>>You've also already stated that the white balance was set to > Tungsten. > > >>> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > When you're worried or in doubt, > > Run in circles, (scream and shout). > >
