In my last post I submitted a link to a b&w conversion of the image, asking
for comments and advice on the conversion. I'm a total newbie in
photoshoping. 

After I sent it, I realised it could be an idea to describe how I did the
conversion in the first place ;-)
Basically I used a step by step description in "Adobe Photoshop Elements 3 -
in a Snap" by J. & S.M. Fulton.

As you may have guessed, it is done in Elements 3.

1. Created a new level, titled red.
2a. Filtered out green and blue in Levels by setting the output level to 0
2b. Slided gamma pretty much to the left.
3. Applied unsharp Mask (have no idea why). Used the recommended values:
Amount 100%, radius 3,0 px, threshold 25.
4. Remove Colour. (The result was a very boring (flat) picture, so far). 
5. Back again to levels. But instead of using auto levels, as recommended, I
did the job manually. Slided the right slider to 128 (was no info in the
pictogram above that level). Also recorrected gamma a bit (to left if I'm
not misremembering)

I know I am asking much now, but you tend to surprise me with your
helpfulness ;-)
Resurprise please.


Tim
Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian)
 
Never underestimate the power of stupidity in large crowds 
(Very freely after Arthur C. Clarke, or some other clever guy)

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tim Øsleby [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 23. august 2005 20:49
> To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
> Subject: RE: PESO: Out door "Piercing Studio"
> 
> >This is a GREAT shot, imho.  I don't care that it's not technically
> >perfect, there's a raw intensity and emotion here that just screams at
> me.
> 
> <blushing> This made me proud, so childish as I am, I had to highlight it.
> Thank you Frank! </blushing>
> 
> Also thank you for your, from my point of view, liberal (read american)
> thoughts on the ethics.
> As I read you, you say: They invited you, therefore it's Ok.
> Can't say I follow you in this kind of logic. What if bloke invited me to
> run over him with my car? Would the fact that he invited me, make it the
> right thing to do? According to my ethics, no.
> 
> Anyway, I tried to convert the picture to b&w as you sugested. Aren't good
> at it.
> The URL is the same:
> http://foto.no/cgi-bin/bildegalleri/vis_bilde.cgi?id=189705
> a thumb to the b&w version is below the picture.
> 
> CAAA (Comments As Always Appreciated)
> What do I do to do it better (referring to converting)?
> 
> 
> Tim
> Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian)
> 
> Never underestimate the power of stupidity in large crowds
> (Very freely after Arthur C. Clarke, or some other clever guy)
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: frank theriault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: 23. august 2005 04:43
> > To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
> > Subject: Re: PESO: Out door "Piercing Studio"
> >
> > On 8/17/05, Tim Øsleby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > I did a bit of street shooting during Malakoff Rockfestival. This is
> one
> > of
> > > the subjects I stumbled across.
> > > http://foto.no/cgi-bin/bildegalleri/vis_bilde.cgi?id=189705
> > > It's not a really good photo. Except that I "like" the look of pain in
> > the
> > > girl's eyes. It makes it look authentic. (Please don't get me wrong, I
> > not
> > > into pain)
> > >
> > > The girls invited me in, wanted me to take their photograph. I
> > hesitated.
> > > Something was holding me a bit back when I was shooting, mainly
> because
> > what
> > > they where doing was a very private thing. I believe that's the main
> > reason
> > > why I did not make a better picture out of it. I did not want to get
> > > involved in what they where doing, didn't want to become a part of it.
> > > I may be old fashioned about this, but sticking holes in me is not
> what
> > I do
> > > in public. (I barely do it private, and when I do, I always wear my
> read
> > > rubber knickers). ;-)
> > >
> > > Comments please: Am I just being an old fart who doesn't understand
> > young
> > > people today? I choose to make this photo public. Does that make me a
> > > hypocrite?
> > > Ok, any comment please, I'm curious on your reactions folks.
> > >
> > >
> > > Tim
> > > Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian.)
> >
> > This is a GREAT shot, imho.  I don't care that it's not technically
> > perfect, there's a raw intensity and emotion here that just screams at
> > me.
> >
> > I wish it were b&w (for an even more raw look), but even in colour I
> love
> > it.
> >
> > Tim, I wouldn't worry about ethical issues.  If they invited you in to
> > take photos, they are telling you that they want their private moment
> > to be captured and shown.  I have no piercings myself (pain ain't my
> > thing), but I know lots of people who do, and they are anything but
> > private about them.  The process and the pain are part of thrill of
> > it, and I don't know of any pierced person who thinks of the piercing
> > as a "private" thing.
> >
> > Great photo.
> >
> > cheers,
> > frank
> >
> > --
> > "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept."  -Henri Cartier-Bresson
> >
> 
> 
> 
> 




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