Small pocket change?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2005/10/29/nebay29.xml

graywolf wrote:
Second chance bids are supposed to come as BIN offers. Anything else is probably someone trying to pick up a bit of spare pocket change without working for it.

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Peter Jordan wrote:

I had the same for an 85mm f/ 1.4 . What sort of gave the game away was that the e-mail arrived about 5 minutes after the end of the auction & I was only the 5th highest bidder.

The other 4 must have dropped out real fast.

Peter



----- Original Message ----- From: "Derby Chang" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <pentax-discuss@pdml.net>
Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2005 10:09 PM
Subject: Re: new ebay scam


dave g wrote:

Just want to mention a scam I haven't seen before. I bid on an item and
lost. I was contacted via ebay by a member who has 100% feedback over
about 5 years, in this case. The member offered me a second chance on
the item, saying the winner of the bid didn't come through. In this
particular case I had in fact already spoken with the real seller of the
item, and he lives in England. I noticed the other member who contacted
me is in the US, has nothing to do with cameras and asked me to reply to
the one I'd already written to to reach the real seller directly.
However, the whole thing looked quite legitimate as it went through
ebay's mail system. In any event, I sent a generic reply from an email
address that can't be traced to me (can't be too careful) and said "yes,
i'd love to buy the item" without mentioning item number or name. The
scammer in the first instance was interested in obtaining my name,
address, phone number, now asking for the item # and my member ID
(because he must be running this on quite a few people he couldn't know
which one I was from the email). I'll post any more info received.
Meanwhile I think ebay has closed that account.
Anyway, just another warning amidst the many out there.
dave


This happened to me too. I lost my bid on a K15mm. Then _two_ emails came in from different addresses, none of which were the seller's, offering a second chance bid. As someone said on this list, how dumb do they think we are?

I notified ebay, and got this response.

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eBay Australia Customer Support wrote:

Hello,

Thank you for taking the time to write to eBay. My name is Cherie, and I
would be happy to assist you.

Please be aware that the second chance offer you have received is not from eBay. The offer would be from the original seller of the item. If it came from sfdst1 and canyon456, it is not real. For a second chance offer for item number 7542263736 to be legit, it would need to be sent by online_auction_broker. I can most certainly understand your concern regarding this "Second Chance Offer". I would like to take a moment to explain what a real one looks like, so that you are prepared for future transactions. When a seller offers a second chance offer to the next highest bidder, it is normally because the winner backed out, the next highest bidder would receive an email. A second chance offer will have a link but it will clearly state the item number at the end of the link and you can pull that up by searching for that same number on the eBay site. (You do not have to click on the link, just search for the item number stated in the link) This part of the offer will look like the following: This offer expires Thursday, Dec 19, 2002 20:02:26 PST. To purchase this item, click the "Buy It Now" button located at the bottom of the following page:


http://cgi3.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewPersonalOffer&item=2900703
504.

If they accept the second chance offer, a new fixed price listing will be automatically generated by the system. It will be the same listing that you bid on before only it will have a buy it now option with the price you bid on the item. (This would be your maximum bid that you placed in the original auction) eBay does not suggest that you complete transactions off-site and if your seller does want to follow through with the second chance offer, you can explain to them that you wish for it to be through eBay so that you are covered by eBay's Standard Purchase Protection Program.

If you have already received a second chance offer and it seems a bit off from the information that I have entered above, I suggest that you copy the email along with the headers into an email and sent it to us so that we can investigate. At that time we will advise you if the email you received is legitimate or not. The full header is extremely important, as we cannot take any kind of action without it. A header will look like a string of "nonsense" characters, similar to the example I have pasted for you below. You can find this by using the "properties" function of your email program.


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