Makes sense, thanks.
I'm starting to get brave enough to work on some of the newer
bodies, the more I know the less I have to guess. ;-)

Don

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Godfrey DiGiorgi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 6:43 PM
> To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
> Subject: Re: MicroPrism ist-D Focus Screen is here!
> 
> 
> Regards the ambient sensors, this information was passed from the  
> folks at Tekade.de on the DPReview forum when someone asked about  
> metering errors with their custom split-image prism viewfinder  
> screen. Just like the screen you bought, their screen works fine in M  
> and CW modes but needs a correction in S mode, for exactly the same  
> reasons.
> 
> For a TTL flash sensor to work, it has to be in the mirror box  
> (because it operates at exposure time). I doubt that Pentax would put  
> two different flash sensors in the body to support TTL and P-TTL  
> separately, so those are in the mirror box.
> 
> Godfrey
> 
> On Jan 5, 2006, at 4:34 PM, Don Sanderson wrote:
> 
> > Godfrey, could you tell us where you found this info?
> > We were discussing it the other day, it would be nice
> > to have a reference source.
> > I know the older meters pretty well but the
> > technology has passed me up. ;-)
> >
> > Thanks!
> > Don
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Godfrey DiGiorgi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 5:30 PM
> >> To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
> >> Subject: Re: MicroPrism ist-D Focus Screen is here!
> >>
> >>
> >> The Spot pattern sensor reads off the focusing screen and is not
> >> exactly aligned with the optical center of the viewfinder optical
> >> system, thus the metering discrepancy.
> >>
> >> CW Averaging and Matrix meter patterns are read from sensors in the
> >> bottom of the mirror box and should cause no discrepancy in meter
> >> readings at all. I believe that the P-TTL/TTL flash sensors are co-
> >> located with the CW Averaging and Matrix metering sensors.
> >>
> >> (Far as I'm aware, this is correct information for D, DS, DS2 and DL
> >> bodies.)
> >>
> >> Godfrey
> >>
> >> On Jan 5, 2006, at 2:17 PM, Don Sanderson wrote:
> >>
> >>> I tested with the spot pattern.
> >>> I'll try again with the others but the 1/2 stop really isn't
> >>> something I'm too worried about.
> >>>
> >>>> Which meter pattern are you using? Matrix, Spot or CW Averaging?
> >>>>
> >>>>> The new screen requires you to use -0.5 exposure compensation
> >>>>> to get the same meter readings as the original screen.
> >>>>> IOW the camera thinks the scene is 1/2 stop darker than it is
> >>>>> and will overexpose without compensation.
> >>>>> This would indicate the meter is behind the prism as others
> >>>>> thought and not behind the mirror as I thought.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Could you elaborate on that a bit?  How does it increase
> >>>>>> exposure?  Does it
> >>>>>> require a greater exposure time for the same results as the
> >>>>>> original
> >>>>>> screen, or less?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> The new screen seems to increase exposure by about 1/2 stop.
> >>
> >
> 

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