I understand a number of "authorities" have professed that  sexual
predators cannot be cured. Hard to take issue with such a declaration.
Mental problems may only extend to their inability to control their
"urges". If they are so inclined, they will find a way to express them.

Jack

--- Ivan Shukster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> The man may of
> 
> 1) been the main player and his uncle is taking the heat
> 
> 2) been the one who turned his uncle into the law and is faking anger
> for
> the sake of his place in the extended family
> 
> 3) been only slightly involved and the law thought it was better to
> ignore
> him than to ruin his career/life and turn him into an "outlaw"
> 
> 4) been heavily involved and the law is operating a sting to catch
> him and
> others
> 
> 5) looked at photos that others have taken and never been near one of
> these
> kids
> 
> 6) helped out his uncle who he really likes or owes but not into
> child porn
> 
> 
> It seems to me the pendulum has swung over too far in outing these
> people so
> that they cannot return to a "normal" life. At one time the crime was
> virtually ignored and now it should be a death sentence. In Vancouver
> someone was charged with child abuse for writing a fictional story.
> Pornography perhaps but how can you abuse a fictional character?
> Stephen
> King is never charged with murder for his novels.
> 
> The other point that bothers me is when someone IS convicted with a
> sex
> crime they are treated as a criminal, someone who committed a
> criminal act.
> But when it is time for their release after serving their sentence or
> after
> being released we are told that they have mental problems and can
> never be
> rehabitated. Which is it criminal or mental. If they cannot be
> rehabbed than
> it seems logical that they do not have full control of their actions.
> If
> they are in full control of their actions then after release they
> should be
> not treated any worse than a convicted robber or murderer is after
> release.
> 
> If this person is working in a place that they could further their
> illegal
> actions or harm children or others than there is no reason for them
> being in
> this situation. Make an appointment to speak about your concerns with
> either
> the police department or the prosecutors office. Let them decide if
> there is
> a potential problem.  When we did foster parenting the regulations
> were that
> only those who could be at risk such as children staying overnight at
> our
> home or where that child stayed could be told about the problem. 
> Driving
> offenders and potential offenders underground might make a single
> street or
> neighbourhood slightly safer but if the person is going to offend it
> just
> moves it over to a less affluent part of town or country.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Shel Belinkoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: January 9, 2006 12:04 PM
> To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
> Subject: Re: Vigilant or Bloody Minded
> 
> 
> <LOL>
> 
> You still don't know what he did ... your whole premise is based on
> something Kevin said, and Kevin was not at all clear about the
> specifics of
> what this guy supposedly did.
> 
> Tell me, Gary, just ~exactly~ what did this man do, just ~exactly~
> what did
> he admit to?  Please be specific.
> 
> Shel
> 
> 
> 
> > [Original Message]
> > From: Gary Sibio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <pentax-discuss@pdml.net>
> > Date: 1/9/2006 10:50:29 AM
> > Subject: Re: Vigilant or Bloody Minded
> >
> > At 12:09 PM 1/9/2006, you wrote:
> >
> >
> > >So, you brand the guy as a Typhoid Mary, turn him out on the
> street
> > >with no ability to earn a living, and likely no treatment for the
> > >mental illness that put him into the situation in the first place.
> > >And what the fuck do you think he is going to do?
> > >Crawl under a rock and hide?
> > >If you don't give the person the tools he needs to rehabilitate
> > >himself, and a reason to rehabilitate, most likely he is going to
> re-offend.
> >
> > Your concerns are terribly misplaced. He's worse than Typhoid Mary.
> > She was unaware that she was endangering others.
> >
> > This man is a predator, not a victim. He was not forced to do what
> he
> > did at gunpoint. His potential victims need to be warned. That's
> why
> > we have 'Meagan's Law' in the USA which mandates that people be
> able
> > to find out if there are any sexual offenders in their neighborhood
> > after they have served their sentences. In many, if not most,
> > communities, you can log onto a Web site to learn where they are.
> > This man admits to what he has done. There is no doubt he is
> guilty.
> > He should be in jail for the protection of the community. Sexual
> > offenders rarely rehabilitate themselves. The recitivism (sp?) rate
> > for these crimes is more than 95%, Even those who are required to
> > take drugs to control their impulses are dangerous because the
> drugs
> > are not completely effective.
> >
> > His victims will be scarred for life. Some will probably go on to
> > victimize other sexually. They will, most likely, never be able to
> > sexually relate to another person normally for the rest of their
> lives.
> >
> > According to what has been posted regarding this man he is not
> > showing any sign of admitting that what he had done was wrong. He's
> > angry at the guy who turned him in. He deserves no sympathy as far
> as
> > I am concerned.
> 
> 
> 
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