Appears the sentence for that single crime would now be three years. Per the article, as you know, the weight of his criminal record had to have had a bearing, but you're right, of course, it was a gross miscarriage of justice. I don't want to start another thread branch, but I HOPE the patchwork of states rights laws now enjoys a much greater degree of moral oversight. The "best in the world" remark is/was an oft repeated formula statement that I couldn't resist reviving. No one knows less about the worlds various legal systems than I. That I'm sure of.
Jack --- Ivan Shukster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > According to the news item on CNN this fellow was convicted in South > Carolina and was constantly refused parole until this past year. When > interviewed and asked how it felt to be free he stated he would not > feel > free until he crossed the state line. I am going by the news as it > was > reported on CNN TV and on their web page. There was absolutely no > mention of > any other crimes and this was before the three strikes rule. It was > in the > news because it was an anomaly. > > http://www.alternet.org/rights/24640/ > > I guess I was wrong on the time It was 35 years instead. > > What assumption should I review? That CNN reported the facts wrong, > that it > occurred somewhere other than the USA or that I cannot understand > what news > I hear? Sorry but I am just repeating what was on US news. > > As far as further rational discussion I was just questioning the > statement > that the US justice system is the best in the world and that sounded > to me > as an absolute, not question true fact. I think it is more an > assumption. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jack Davis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: January 10, 2006 5:47 PM > To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net > Subject: RE: Vigilant or Bloody Minded > > > You don't seriously think that one would receive a 23 year prison > sentence simply for "stealing a black and white TV"? > Until you review that assumption, further rational discussion would > be > hopeless. > > Jack > > --- Ivan Shukster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Is it? I am wondering what this is based on. Is it statistically > > better > > than the one in Canada or New Zealand or Australia? I cannot > > understand how > > someone serving 23 years for stealing a black and white TV is a > > justice > > system. I would think that most people in a "free" country would > > trust > > their own system over that of another country as normally only the > > abnormal > > results from another country's system makes international news. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Jack Davis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: January 10, 2006 5:32 PM > > To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net > > Subject: Re: Vigilant or Bloody Minded > > > > > > US justice system is far from perfect, it's only the best one in > the > > world. > > > > Jack > > > > --- "P. J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > I don't know about that, I expect that real justice is a likely > > > either > > > way. Juries can be capricious, so can judges. The system > doesn't > > > even > > > try to guarantee justice by the way, only process. > > > > > > Tom C wrote: > > > > > > > Don't think my earlier comments meant I have faith in the > justice > > > > system(s). It's just that one probably stands a better chance > of > > > > justice (statistically) if their case is heard by a jury than > by > > a > > > > judge, or any other single person. > > > > > > > > Tom C. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> From: "Bob W" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > >> Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net > > > >> To: <pentax-discuss@pdml.net> > > > >> Subject: RE: Vigilant or Bloody Minded > > > >> Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2006 21:46:58 -0000 > > > >> > > > >> > -----Original Message----- > > > >> > From: Cotty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >> > > > > >> > >and when you castrate an innocent person, how will you put > > his > > > balls > > > >> > >back on? > > > >> > > > > >> > Someone proven by the courts to be guilty is likely to be > > > >> > guilty. > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/static/in_depth/uk/2001/life_of_crime/misca > > > > > > >> > > > >> rriages.stm > > > >> > > > >> > I'm happy with the risk he might be innocent. Balls away! > > > >> > > > >> ...until it's you, or your son, presumably. > > > >> > > > >> Bob > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > When you're worried or in doubt, > > > Run in circles, (scream and shout). > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > > > > > -- > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.14.14/222 - Release Date: > > 05/01/2006 > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.14.14/222 - Release Date: > 05/01/2006 > > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com