It does, Tim. But thanks for the link - very interesting. The lensmount does not really provide enough support - it's located too close to the camera mount. At least it would take a huge tripod to keep the lens steady. regards Jens
Jens Bladt http://www.jensbladt.dk -----Oprindelig meddelelse----- Fra: Tim Øsleby [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 27. marts 2006 21:41 Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Emne: RE: Much improved (WAS: Testing a Tamron Adaptall 6.9 200-500mm (not SP)) Does your lens have a tripod mount? If so, have a look at this http://www.moosepeterson.com/techtips/longlens.html Very good tips. Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) Never underestimate the power of stupidity in large crowds (Very freely after Arthur C. Clarke, or some other clever guy) > -----Original Message----- > From: Jens Bladt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 27. mars 2006 21:19 > To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net > Subject: RE: Much improved (WAS: Testing a Tamron Adaptall 6.9 200-500mm > (not SP)) > > Thanks, Tim. > I take you are talking about the M* 4/300mm prime. > IMO is does outperform the Tamron zoom. Perhaps not by miles, but it is > noticeable - even on these small (33%) images, saved for web (from 4MB to > 160 KB) images. > > Yes, you are right keeping thsi long lens still at 500mm 1/40 sec. is > imposible using a tripod. I beanbag would haven been better. Don't look to > much at the 500mm test. All it shows is that it's contrasty and reasonably > sharp - I believe the F.6.9 and F.8 shots show this. > > I don't know this Tokina AT-X 100-300mm. > I had a FA 100-300mm (powerzoom)at work. Noting to write home about! > > I have tested a MF Tokina AT-X 2.8/70-200mm sometime ago. Nothing to > wrtite > home about! It may have been a "monday version", though. But I have had > two > AT-X 2.6-2.8/28-70mm Pro II. I impact damaged one and got a replacement > (still got it). It's a brilliant lens. > > It seems the price level of a Tokina 100-300mm MF F.4 is somehwere between > 150 and 300 USD. > http://tinyurl.com/nztvv > http://tinyurl.com/moz8s > > A problem (for me) with Tokina is that you're never really sure if we are > talkning about the same lens/model. They seem to do small changes (often > not > for the better) during production - without changing the model name? > > I paid 138 Euro for the Tamron. I believe It may just be worth it, even > though it's only a "K-lens" (green button shooting). > I don't know if I'll ever get good results, since it's so HUGE. I don't > have > a tripod heavy enough - and I'll need aditional support at the front end. > Or > I will have to rest it on a bag or similar in order to keep it from moving > ;-) But the opticall quality is surprisingly high, considered it's not > even > a SP (F.5.6), which is prised at twice of what I paid. (Perhaps the 5.6 > version is a Adaptall 2) > > Anybody knows this, please ??? > > > > As soon as we get better weather - I'l go shoot some birds at a near by > nature reserve :-): > http://www.sns.dk/jagt/reservatfoldere/oelsemagle/oelsemagle.html#Anchor- > Vad > efugl-10003 > > Regards > Jens > > > > Jens Bladt > http://www.jensbladt.dk > > -----Oprindelig meddelelse----- > Fra: Tim Øsleby [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sendt: 27. marts 2006 20:00 > Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net > Emne: RE: Much improved (WAS: Testing a Tamron Adaptall 6.9 200-500mm > (not SP)) > > > That's improvement Jens! > > Did you put grease on the lens elements on the prime, to make the test > unfair :-) > Seriously: The prime should outperform the zoom by miles. It simply > doesn't > IMHO. This is really surprising. If it was a modern state of the art zoom > like the Sigma 100-300/4, it wouldn't have surprised me that much, but > this > is an old, slow and cheap lens. > > At first I was a bit puzzled by the 500mm test. The result is better at > 6,9 > and 8, than it is at 11, and it improves at 16 and 22. I guess it simply > is > camera shake. Hopefully the new D2 will minimize this. > Not that _I_ can afford one when it comes. I have to wait for the prize > drop. > > BTW. I have been thinking on looking for a MF Tokina AT-X 100-300/4. I > have > no idea what price I can expect, but if you are lucky you might get one at > a > affordable prize. The very few reviews online indicates it is a very good > lens. This and the AF 1,7x might be a killer combo. In good light the AF > should work. > Any thoughts on this? > > > Tim > Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) > > Never underestimate the power of stupidity in large crowds > (Very freely after Arthur C. Clarke, or some other clever guy) > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Jens Bladt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: 27. mars 2006 18:40 > > To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net > > Subject: OT: Much improved (WAS: Testing a Tamron Adaptall 6.9 200-500mm > > (not SP)) > > > > Hello list. > > The relative bright weather today allowed me to improve my brick wall > test > > significantly. > > It's a Tamron (adaptall) 6.9 200-500mm vs. SMC Pentax FA 2.8/80-200mm > > ED(IF) and vs. SMC Pentax M* 4/300mm. > > Please take a look at: http://www.jensbladt.dk/Test/newfile1.html > > > > Regards > > Jens > > > > Jens Bladt > > http://www.jensbladt.dk > > > > -----Oprindelig meddelelse----- > > Fra: Jens Bladt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sendt: 27. marts 2006 07:44 > > Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net > > Emne: RE: Tersting a Tamron Adaptall 6.9 200-500mm (not SP) > > > > > > Having fun is still the most improtant thing, Tim ;-) > > Does photographs from the Zoo count? > > I'm afraid they took all the birds indoors because of the current bird > > flue > > thing ;-( > > > > Regards > > Jens Bladt > > http://www.jensbladt.dk > > > > -----Oprindelig meddelelse----- > > Fra: Tim Øsleby [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sendt: 26. marts 2006 14:53 > > Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net > > Emne: RE: Tersting a Tamron Adaptall 6.9 200-500mm (not SP) > > > > > > I havn't done a "formal" test with my lens, but so far it looks like > that > > me > > too, has to shoot at f:8 or more with my Tokina AT-X 150-500 f:5,6. I > also > > have a impression that I have to shoot at 15 meter or closer. Yesterday > > was > > a very bright day, with snow, bright sun, and reflections from the sea. > > When > > shooting at longer distance I had a lot of contrast problems. I'm not > sure > > it is contrast problems, but thats my "diagnose" at this stage. I > haven't > > shoot any keepers yet. But, it is fun. > > > > Hi Thibouille. I don't know where you live. > > But I guess if you look around you most likely will find some spots > where > > you can get bird photos without messy backgrounds. Have a walk in a > park, > > go > > to a lonely sport stadium, try getting on top of some roofs etc. My > point > > is > > that I'm pretty sure you will find good spots for shooting city birds if > > you > > go looking. > > This is just some ideas up from my sleeve. Have fun. > > > > > > Tim > > Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) > > > > Never underestimate the power of stupidity in large crowds > > (Very freely after Arthur C. Clarke, or some other clever guy) > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Thibouille [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Sent: 26. mars 2006 13:44 > > > To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net > > > Subject: Re: Tersting a Tamron Adaptall 6.9 200-500mm (not SP) > > > > > > Sure but it even more dificult to get an interesting picture: the bird > > > could be very nice but the background often a bit too... messy ? (and > > > I'm kind ;) > > > > > > On 3/26/06, Jens Bladt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Hmmm... > > > > Ther must be some birds in the city - doves, perhaps ;-) > > > > Not to mention the birds can can watch go by ;-) > > > > Regards > > > > jens > > > > > > > > Jens Bladt > > > > http://www.jensbladt.dk > > > > > > > > -----Oprindelig meddelelse----- > > > > Fra: Thibouille [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Sendt: 26. marts 2006 11:18 > > > > Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net > > > > Emne: Re: Tersting a Tamron Adaptall 6.9 200-500mm (not SP) > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm interested too. > > > > Will be dificult for me to shoot much (living in plain center of the > > > > city) but I'm very curious of what I could do with my stuff too ;) > > > > > > > > ---------------------- > > > > Thibouille > > > > ---------------------- > > > > *ist-D,Z1,SFXn,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ... > > > > > > > > -- > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > > > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > > > Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.3.1/292 - Release Date: > > > 03/24/2006 > > > > > > > > -- > > > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > > > > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > > > Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.3.1/292 - Release Date: > > > 03/24/2006 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > ---------------------- > > > Thibouille > > > ---------------------- > > > *ist-D,Z1,SFXn,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ... > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.3.1/292 - Release Date: > 03/24/2006 > > > > -- > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.3.1/292 - Release Date: > 03/24/2006 > > > > -- > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.3.1/292 - Release Date: > 03/24/2006 > > > > -- > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.3.2/293 - Release Date: > 03/26/2006 > > > > > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.3.2/293 - Release Date: 03/26/2006 > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.3.2/293 - Release Date: 03/26/2006 > -- No virus found in this incoming message. 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