Don't worry Mike. I am not insulted, not at all. If I sound insulted, then thats not my intention. I am frustrated by the situation thats all.
Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) Never underestimate the power of stupidity in large crowds (Very freely after Arthur C. Clarke, or some other clever guy) > -----Original Message----- > From: mike wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 11. april 2006 14:22 > To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net > Subject: Re: RE: Composing on screen vs. in viewfinder. > > > > > > From: Tim Øsleby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Date: 2006/04/11 Tue AM 11:39:05 GMT > > To: <pentax-discuss@pdml.net> > > Subject: RE: Composing on screen vs. in viewfinder. > > > > List. You are not responding to my question, you are simply burping gas. > > Helicopter is out of the question ;-) > > > > My question was something like this. How do I become better at cropping > at > > computer? I tried to analyze the situation a bit, but the question was > as > > simple as that. > > The general answer seems to be "Do the very best you can in-camera before > you think about "phixing"". There is plenty of room for improvement. > Which is meant as encouragement, not insult. > > > > > > > Tim > > Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) > > > > Never underestimate the power of stupidity in large crowds > > (Very freely after Arthur C. Clarke, or some other clever guy) > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Tim Øsleby [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Sent: 10. april 2006 23:53 > > > To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net > > > Subject: Composing on screen vs. in viewfinder. > > > > > > Those of you reading the list lately may have noticed that I have a > > > project > > > going on, that forces me to explore some new land (read learn new > > > techniques). > > > How a beeeep should you avoid noticing that? With my endless ranting > > > questions ;-) > > > > > > I have been talking about using longer lenses, building hides and so > on. > > > This has been great fun, and I am learning a lot about photography and > > > birds. My longest glass that is usable is 500mm (with converter it > tends > > > to > > > be too soft), so I have to crop the pictures to make them interesting. > > > > > > This has made me realise that I am a lot better at composing in > viewfinder > > > then I am with composing on computer screen. I have been thinking > about > > > this. I have some ideas about why. > > > > > > First: > > > It is that in the field I compose more on instinct. I am there, and I > have > > > emotions about the motifs. My heart is involved, and I believe that it > is > > > my > > > heart that makes the composing decisions. Back at home, the motifs are > > > more > > > distant to me, so there I compose by brain (and as you know, that's > not > > > much > > > of a brain). > > > > > > The second reason has to do with the decisive moment: > > > When I shot slides my mind was in "capture mode" (sorry Shel, I know > you > > > don't like that word). When pushing the button I knew that what is in > > > frame, > > > stays in frame, and what is out of frame, stays out. (Everybody who > has > > > tried masking slides in glassless frames, knows that you do everything > you > > > can to avoid that activity later). > > > > > > Now, when shooting digitally, being forced to crop later something > happens > > > with my mindset. There is no decisive moment in post processing on > > > computer. > > > There is always possible to go back. > > > > > > What I'm saying is that I think I need the decisive moment to make a > good > > > composition. I also need to be emotionally connected with the motif in > > > some > > > way. > > > > > > But what do I do about this? Practise is one obvious answer. And I > will > > > practise. But, I also have a strong belief in the power and wisdom of > this > > > list. I would really surprise me if it doesn't burp up some good ideas > and > > > advise. > > > > > > > > > Tim > > > Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) > > > > > > Never underestimate the power of stupidity in large crowds > > > (Very freely after Arthur C. Clarke, or some other clever guy) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----------------------------------------- > Email sent from www.ntlworld.com > Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software > Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information >