Very eloquently put, Godfrey.  You have a way with words.

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Bruce


Thursday, June 15, 2006, 11:18:53 AM, you wrote:

GD> The sentiment has been etched in electrons a bazillion times.

GD> Technical quality is different from aesthetic quality. Sometimes an
GD> aesthetically pleasing result is awful technically. And vice versa.

GD> RAW format's added dynamic range and ease of use *while shooting*
GD> makes it more likely that I will get the results I want, technically.
GD> It's larger size and additional processing requirements puts a burden
GD> on storage devices and processing power, but I'm willing to accept
GD> those disadvantages for the advantages it offers.

GD> None of that affects whether I can see photographs, from an aesthetic
GD> standpoint. But if what I see cannot be captured with the dynamic
GD> range and settings I have at my disposal using JPEG storage, then
GD> it's compromising my ability to render those aesthetic qualities.

GD> I do agree with: "it's not the gear that is keeping me from making
GD> better photos". The capabilities of even the least capable DSLR  
GD> available today are generally beyond the abilities of most  
GD> photographers to exploit them all the way, except for specific  
GD> features targeted at various niche needs (like fast sequences for
GD> racing work) or convenience desires. That's why I have no problems
GD> using the low end Pentax DS bodies to produce my work. Nobody has
GD> complained about the technical quality of the prints I've shown.

GD> Godfrey


GD> On Jun 15, 2006, at 9:32 AM, UncaMikey wrote:

>> Bingo!  I think this should be etched in electrons someplace
>> prominently.
>>
>> PDML is a gear list, so the discussions focus on equipment, but  
>> this is
>> exactly what I've noticed in the time I've followed the list (and  
>> every
>> other photo discussion group).  I have seen no correlation between
>> equipment and image quality -- virtually every camera and lens, old
>> and
>> new, has produced both wonderful and terrible photographs.
>>
>> I am preaching to myself here, since I have to remind myself all the
>> time that it's not the gear that is keeping me from making better
>> photos.
>>
>> *>Unca Mikey
>>
>> --- Ann Sanfedele <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>> But I have not yet seen that the quality of images of people
>>> shooting raw , from an aesthetic viewpoint, is any better
>>> than those who are shooting jpgs or
>>> film - and that is what I care most about.




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