What you say makes sense.  The hood has to be a little wider to be
able to reverse around the body of the lens.  I've got to do a little
searching around, seeing  how I don't have many hoods that aren't
designed for a specific lens.  My 77mm Heliopan will sit between the
lens threads and the custom hood.  I'll have to give that one a try
just to see if it vignettes at all.

I had to quickly go try it - at the 45mm end it worked fine.  At the
16mm end, it looked like I had put on one of those Cokin filters that
makes you think you are looking through a rifle scope or something -
very heavy vignetting.

-- 
Bruce


Friday, June 16, 2006, 4:04:23 PM, you wrote:

SB> Some more thoughts on the 16-45 hood:

SB> One of the things I discovered over the years was that hoods that fit over
SB> the lens for storage, such as the hood for the 16-45, are usually poorly
SB> optimized for best results since they are generally compromised by their
SB> design in order to fit over the hood.  This was made clear to me some years
SB> ago when testing hoods from Takumar lenses, many of which were designed to
SB> slip over the lens in the same manner as the hood for the 16-45.  Even on
SB> film cameras it was determined that a hood from a longer lens could often -
SB> usually - be used to advantage on a shorter lens.

SB> I just did a very Q&D test of extending the protective area of the 16-45
SB> hood, and there appears to be plenty of room for a hood that's either
SB> deeper or narrower, or both.  So, IMO, a better hood may be available - the
SB> standard hood can certainly be improved upon.  Film (digital) at 11:00 <LOL>

SB> Shel



>> [Original Message]
>> From: Bruce Dayton 

>> Intrigued, I took my 16-45 and FA 50/1.4 outside here to test for
>> flare.  It is 100 degrees and very sunny right now, so easy to get the
>> sun in the image.  As I worked with the 16-45 first, I could cause it
>> to flare when I put the sun just outside of the top corner of the
>> frame.  If I moved the sun into the frame just slightly, it flare
>> would go away.  So it seemed that there was one angle of the sun that
>> would catch the glass just right that SMC coatings wouldn't help
>> enough.
>>
>> Then I put on the FA 50 and tried the same thing.  On this lens, it
>> would flare just as the sun was put into the frame, rather than just
>> outside it.  It can be made to flare just about as easily as the
>> 16-45, but at a different angle.
>>
>> The picture that Paul Stenquist showed had the sun in the frame and so
>> the flare was mostly absent.  Your shot has the sun just outside the
>> frame and so it really showed.
>>
>> Anyway, in my quickie test, it seemed that there was a single spot
>> where the flare would really show, but I could make another Pentax
>> lens do just about the same thing.  That is probably why I haven't
>> noticed any real flare problems with mine - it didn't take much of a
>> movement to fix the problem.
>>
>> Thoughts?






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