Thanks Mark, Shel, Paul. Paul i use the Channel Mixer to, but i seem to be able to get the general conversion ok, but its that fine tweak, that still gives me problems. Same as when i printed at home, pic's are grey and white, not black and white.
Shel, you may not read this as your TTFN, but, i agree, my stuff stinks, but i think i do know what it SHOULD look like, i just can't seem to get the worklflow to the point of MAKING IT look like that.(sorry for the shout:-)) I seem to be able to get decent results in the school darkroom, just can seem to get past curves and layers yet. I know a ton of practise and playing is required, i just give up to quickly.:-) My edit programs are 99% PS, was ver 6 now CS. Thansk again. Oh, i found the link in a past pdml email about a curves tutorial, from Collin i think, and have it BM and printed out. Dave Quoting Shel Belinkoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Hello, Dave ... > > Perhaps you might start by telling us what conversion processes you've been > using. There are numerous methods and techniques available. > > Also (and please take this in the spirit it's intended) your B&W work > generally is pretty poor. I don't tink you really know what good B&W is > supposed to look like. There are numerous styles that have been used over > the years, ytet your work has always seemed lacking in shadow detail, > contrast, and tonality. Can you get to some galleries or museums and spend > some time looking at good, exhibition quality, B&W silver prints. Maybe > see a style that's similar to what you want yopur prints to look like, and > then work towards that objective. > > In addition, it may be helpful to know what editing program you're using. > I seem to reacll that you're using more than one, and maybe it would help > if you chose one and stayed with it, learning it well and mastering the > features you need to get the results you want. > > There's a program that I've used that helps with B&W conversions that's > really good - best I've found on the 'net. Go to > http://www.theimagingfactory.com/ and download Convert to B&W Pro and see > how you like it. > > TTFN, TTYL, YMMV, > > Shel > > > >> [Original Message] >> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> Converting to B&W. i seem to have a 80-20% nogood/ good ratio. >> Just wondering were i should be spending my time. In the colour >> stage adjusting the file or in the converted stage. Getting good contrast >> seems to be my biggest problem. >> IR seems the bigger miss. Getting the false colours to a good B&W. >> >> Maybe i';m just not clear on what i should be looking for or to. >> >> Any suggestions. > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > Equine Photography in York Region -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
