John,

No, not me. I still shoot film and will for quite some
time. The whole idea of that lens design to me is
backwards. After all, for me photography is lenses so
changing them greatly just rubs me the wrong way. What
next? Since the camera is autofocus then no manual
focus ring? 

It's true that I may get used to shooting that way,
but I'll never like it. 

-Brendan

--- John Forbes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Brendan,
> 
> Like everybody else (well, almost everybody), you'll
> get used to it after  
> a while, and then wonder why you ever thought having
> an aperture ring was  
> a good idea.
> 
> John
> 
> 
> On Sat, 19 Aug 2006 18:06:43 +0100, Brendan MacRae  
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> >
> >
> > --- John Francis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >> On Fri, Aug 18, 2006 at 10:28:12PM -0700, Brendan
> >> MacRae wrote:
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Thanks for setting me straight, Godfrey. Good
> >> lord, I
> >> > had no idea the DSLR's operated that way. Now
> I'm
> >> just
> >> > pissed off. Do the *ist series film cameras
> >> operate
> >> > that way as well? Where the hell have I been?
> >> >
> >> > You see, I knew there was a reason to come back
> >> into
> >> > the fold. All of a sudden I feel so old
> fashioned.
> >>
> >> Never mind - you can just go and stand in that
> group
> >> over there; you're by no means the only person
> who
> >> wants
> >> the aperture control to be done by the
> lens-mounted
> >> ring,
> >> just as god intended.
> >> Of course you won't be allowed into the group who
> >> also feel
> >> that shutter controls belong on a ring round the
> >> lens, too.
> >> Or the group for whom anything more sophisticated
> >> than
> >> taking the lens cap off to control exposure is
> >> anathema.
> >
> >
> > lol!
> >
> > It's definitely a frustration. I wish that the
> > engineers would think more in terms of making the
> new
> > technology as similar to the old as possible. I
> feel
> > for them, on the one hand, in that there are a
> > plethora of considerations that they must take
> into
> > account when designing something new (things I
> would
> > never even consider not being an engineer).
> However,
> > losing something as tactile and familiar as
> adjusting
> > the lens aperture on the lens seems next to crazy,
> > IMHO. Especially from the company that gave us the
> > perfectly retro Zx-5n, camera lauded by users and
> > designers alike for its traditional control
> laytout in
> > a autofocus body.
> >
> > Still, I always hated that the Zx-5n was made of
> > plastic, which is another reason I switched to the
> > MZ-S. Maybe I'm just way too hard to please.
> >
> > -Brendan
> >
> >
> >
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