And the fact that he is a pro gives him the right to attack person in stead
of the ball? 
I don't think so.

Anyway. My hint was just a hint, no big deal intended.


Tim
Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian)
 

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul
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Sent: 18. september 2006 02:31
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No, it's just telling it like it is time. John is a working pro, and  
he speaks from considerable experience.
Paul
On Sep 17, 2006, at 7:58 PM, Tim Øsleby wrote:

> Medication time John, medication time ;-)
>
>
> Tim
> Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian)
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On  
> Behalf Of John
> Francis
> Sent: 18. september 2006 01:51
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> Subject: Re: 50/1.4 or 1.2 for the DSLR Bodies
>
>
> Enough of us to point out the problems inherent in your
> (quite frankly tiresome and arrogant) insistence that the
> way *you* happen to want to use your camera is the only
> way that any sentient being could possibly consider.
> You're by no means the first poster to storm onto this
> list and, without ever having tried the alternative,
> castigated Pentax for making a choice different from
> yours. If you'd claimed that the interface of the PZ
> bodies (which gave the user the choice) was what Pentax
> should have done, you might have found more support.
> But if they're only going to provide one way of working,
> then your preference for the aperture ring isn't the
> universally superior technique you seem to believe.
>
> I *did* point out that the problem was only significant
> with long-ish telephoto lenses (it's an issue with any
> lens of 200m or greater focal length,  not just a 600mm).
> But still you denied that there could ever be a problem
> because your hand must be "near" the aperture ring.
>
>
>
> On Sun, Sep 17, 2006 at 04:36:16PM -0700, Brendan MacRae wrote:
>> How many of us are using 600mm lenses...handheld or
>> otherwise?
>>
>> -Brendan
>>
>> --- John Francis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>> On Sun, Sep 17, 2006 at 11:09:22AM -0700, Brendan
>>> MacRae wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --- John Francis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> As has been pointed out many times in the past,
>>>>> that's
>>>>> incorrect if you're using a long-ish telephoto;
>>> your
>>>>> hand is nowhere near the aperture ring.
>>>>
>>>> "nowhere near"? If your hand is on the lens it is,
>>> by
>>>> pure definition, "near" the aperture ring.
>>>>
>>>> -Brendan
>>>
>>> Try steadying a 600mm lens sometime (the recommended
>>> fashion
>>> is with your hand applying slight pressure on the
>>> top of the
>>> lens hood).  That's not "near" by any stretch of
>>> imagination.
>>> (And, in any case, your other hand is much nearer;
>>> if distance
>>> is the sole criterion you should adjust the aperture
>>> with your
>>> right hand).
>>>
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