Thanks Tom, Adam, WW, Godders and anyone else i missed. Gives me a lot to think about now.
Sounds like a book is in order to. Just wish i could find a studio course at night around here, but i have not been successful. Ther was one a few years back, i miised out and now they are not offering it anymore. Dave Quoting graywolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Just a comment, the Vivitar 283 only has a GN of 120 in their > advertising. Real world GN confirmed many times via flash metering, and > results with slides is 80. Point that into an Umbrella and you have > maybe a GN of 25-30. With my 200WS Normans I get an honest GN of 160, > pointing them into 36 inch umbrellas I can get 10 feet at f5.6 (GN 56), > or so, in living room sized rooms. ASA 100, so probably could get f/8.0 > at ASA 200. For portraits you are probably working at 5 feet or so, > hence my previous comment that 200WS would be adequate (assuming the the > strobe has low power provisions) for the type of work Dave was talking > about. I do believe that with dogs and such you would want more DOF than > for people shots too so you are not going to be shooting at f/2.8. > > I will stick with my comments that 200WS per light is great for small > location work, and that 400WS per light will work for most commercial > location stuff. If you need more than that, you probably already know > exactly what you are doing, rent a couple of 2400WS Speedotrons (the > commercial photographers best friend) <grin>. > > BTW, modeling lights can be rigged to most any strobe. All you need is a > small flood light rigged to point the same direction as the flash unit. > If your lighting needs to be more detailed than that you are probably > better off working with Fresnel hot lights. > > -- > graywolf > http://www.graywolfphoto.com > http://webpages.charter.net/graywolf > "Idiot Proof" <==> "Expert Proof" > ----------------------------------- > > > Brian Dunn wrote: >>> What I found was the smaller flashes just >>> didn't have enough power. >> >> Silvered umbrellas help a bit ( Photogenic Eclipse, I think they are >> called... ). I get around F8 at ISO 200 with two silvered umbrellas at a >> resonable working distance for small groups. GN 120 flashes, Vivitar 285 >> HVs. Recycle time and the need to change batteries every now and then are >> still issues, though. For location work with monolights, you might want to >> invest in the monolight system's big battery pack units to avoid running >> cables to an outlet ( if there is one ), and possibly tripping breakers if >> everyone's on the same aged circuit ( photog lights, video lights, >> DJ system, >> etc. ) >> >> >> Brian >> >> >> > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > Equine Photography in York Region -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net