Well, the unions, or their memberships, have a lot to do with the attitude.
Sometime, somehow, it quit being "all workers should have good pay, benefits, and fair treatment"; and became "we need to keep the riff-raff out". I grew up in a union family, I have been in unions myself, so I am not talking from the outside. When you have bothers on the bench and are willing to work overtime because the money means more to you than some silly principles, and the business managers have more in common with the employers than the workers, it is time for those unions to die. It would be nice if some folks with principles would start new ones to replace them however, collective bargain is not socialism. At least not where I grew up. It always has strikes me funny when some working class stiff, complains about unions by claiming those factory workers pay is too high. Talk about being propagandized. When I worked scab jobs I always figured that it was my pay that was too low. -- graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com http://webpages.charter.net/graywolf "Idiot Proof" <==> "Expert Proof" ----------------------------------- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > In a message dated 9/26/2006 7:51:54 PM Pacific Daylight Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Thank Senator McCarthy for that one. > > William Robb > ======= > And quite a few others since. Smoke and mirrors -- disinformation and > misinformation -- is quite active in the US. Now people who should support > unions, > working people who need them, like underpaid and non-healthcared Wal-Mart > workers for example, don't. Unions helped improve things for people for > decades, now > they are perceived as evil by many. > > I am constantly amazed at how well things can be twisted by a cunning few. > > Oh, well, this is politics and I do believe this is a camera/photography list. > > Marnie aka Doe > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net