WRONG - "A" lenses are extremely difficult to find Compared to K/M. Sure thare are SOME rare K/M, But there are nearly all rare A and later on used Market. I should state that the "K" series are Somewhat rare being only made for 2 years on most Models but the "M" series should stand for MASSIVE Quantities made and sold. Dont forget that all pentax Made was K and M for 9 years and those were their Best years. By the time "A" came out Canon was Kicking their ass in popularity. JCO
-----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Adam Maas Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2006 6:31 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: k10d and manual-aperture lenses? Ok, try finding a K 85. Sure, there are a lot of K/M lenses out there, but the A and later lenses are at least as common as the non-50mm Pentax-branded K's today. A lot of K lenses (especially anything other than 28, 35, 50 or 135's) are quite rare, like the 85. Many of the A lenses (including the 50mm f2) were in production far longer than the equivalent K/M lenses. -Adam J. C. O'Connell wrote: > Total Bullshit, Like I said in my earlier posts, > Pentax was on top of the world in the K/M era > In popularity. There are more K/M lenses in existance > Than ALL THE OTHER SERIES COMBINED. Just try ebay. > You have it ass backwards, finding lenses "A" or > Later is much harder than K/M series, ebay or elsewhere. > jco > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > Adam Maas > Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2006 5:53 PM > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > Subject: Re: k10d and manual-aperture lenses? > > Nothing wrong with them, I'm fond of mine. But the monstrous amount of > them floating around does not a market make. Other pre-A glass is > significantly more rare. > > -Adam > > > J. C. O'Connell wrote: >> And whats wrong with 50mm F2's? :) >> Seriuosly, pentax made a lot of >> Really nice K and M lenses and they >> For the most part are holding up >> Excellently due to the great build quality. >> To not fully support these millions of >> Excellent PENTAX Lenses is really shameful... >> jco >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf > Of >> Adam Maas >> Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2006 4:55 PM >> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> Subject: Re: k10d and manual-aperture lenses? >> >> Of course, 50% of those lenses you refer to are 50mm f2's sitting in a > >> shoebox with a K1000 somewhere. >> >> -Adam >> >> J. C. O'Connell wrote: >>> Oh Screw You. You dont have a clue if you think that legacy >>> Lens support is only a minor issue. And like an >>> Idiot it's NOT the age of the lenses it's WHAT >>> The PK/PKM lenses are, which are superb MANUAL >>> Focus lenses which are not even available new >>> Anymore so there is great reason to support them. >>> AGE IS IRRELAVANT. There are MORE PK/PKM lenses >>> In existence than all other lens series combined so >>> MOST Pentax BRAND lenses are not fully supported. Thats >>> Not good by any standards....This is a Pentax support >>> Issue, not a compatability issue which really sucks >>> IMHO. If yours differs, so be it, but you cannot >>> Prove your points by calling me an idiot, it just >>> Makes you look like an idiot in doing so.. >>> Jco >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf >> Of >>> John Forbes >>> Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2006 2:21 PM >>> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>> Subject: Re: k10d and manual-aperture lenses? >>> >>> Don't apologise to JC O'Connell. >>> >>> He is a boring little nitwit who comes onto the list every six months >> or >>> so to wind himself into a frenzy over the lack of full support for >> very >>> old lenses. >>> >>> After abusing anyone who disagrees with him (sample: "Gimme a friggin >>> break with your "you don?t own a pentax (sic) DSLR So (sic) you don?t >>> know >>> what youre (sic) talking about" B.S."). >>> >>> Eventually, after about a dozen posts, this one-issue idiot has an >>> apoplectic fit, and shuts up for another six months while he > recovers. >>> Then the cycle starts all over again. >>> >>> John >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Sun, 08 Oct 2006 16:49:13 +0100, Tim Øsleby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> wrote: >>>> I know that now. >>>>> From now on I will look for limitations in my equipment. >>>> JCO. >>>> Sorry about my sarcastic reply. The compatibility could have been >>> solved >>>> better, I agree on that. >>>> But I prefer looking forward, looking for solutions instead of >> beating >>>> this >>>> dead horse. I don't believe irritation over this minor issue (for > me) >>>> will >>>> make me a better photographer. >>>> >>>> >>>> Tim >>>> Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf >>> Of >>>> J. >>>> C. O'Connell >>>> Sent: 8. oktober 2006 17:34 >>>> To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' >>>> Subject: RE: k10d and manual-aperture lenses? >>>> >>>> Why settle for shit for no reason? >>>> Glass is still definitely half empty. >>>> jco >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf >>> Of >>>> Tim Øsleby >>>> Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2006 11:27 AM >>>> To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' >>>> Subject: RE: k10d and manual-aperture lenses? >>>> >>>> I stand corrected, silly me. My perception is obviously wrong >>>> [slapping myself happily over forehead]. >>>> >>>> The glass is half empty, not half full. >>>> >>>> >>>> Tim >>>> Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf >>> Of >>>> J. >>>> C. O'Connell >>>> Sent: 8. oktober 2006 17:03 >>>> To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' >>>> Subject: RE: k10d and manual-aperture lenses? >>>> >>>> No, an "extra bonus" on a $1000 top line camera would be >>>> A camera that could read the PK PKM lens aperture setting. That this >>> is >>>> Not done is ridiculous as its friggin SIMPLE to implement... >>>> Semi automanual manual is good but it aint open aperture AE >>>> With PK PKM, while is very possible but still is not done. >>>> jco >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf >>> Of >>>> Tim Øsleby >>>> Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2006 10:46 AM >>>> To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' >>>> Subject: RE: k10d and manual-aperture lenses? >>>> >>>> Welcome onboard David. >>>> >>>> I had exactly the same thoughts as you about metering manual lenses >>>> before I >>>> tried it. In real life, it is no problem. After 15 minutes using it, >>> you >>>> will get used to it. >>>> In high speed situation you must think a bit ahead, watching at the >>>> light. >>>> If lighting changes you need to re push the button every now and > then >>> to >>>> make sure to get the exposure right before the decisive moment. >>>> >>>> Lack of matrix metering is a bit frustrating. But in most situations >>> you >>>> can >>>> get around it using the histogram fine tuning the exposure. It's the >>>> same as >>>> the green button thing. You need to think a bit ahead, being > prepared >>>> for >>>> the decisive moment. >>>> >>>> But what can you expect. Consider the ability to use old lenses as > an >>>> extra >>>> bonus. >>>> >>>> >>>> Tim >>>> Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf >>> Of >>>> David Bliss >>>> Sent: 8. oktober 2006 10:01 >>>> To: pdml@pdml.net >>>> Subject: k10d and manual-aperture lenses? >>>> >>>> Hi all, >>>> >>>> I'm new to the list but I've been reading the archives for the last >>> few >>>> weeks so hopefully I will not make too much of a fool of myself. > I'm >>> a >>>> long >>>> time amateur user of Pentax 35mm film gear about to buy my first >> DSLR. >>> I >>>> was >>>> minutes away from buying a K100D when the K10D was announced... >>>> >>>> I have a lot of manual-aperture K-mount glass, so being able to use >> it >>>> on >>>> a new DSLR is important to me. I know there are workarounds for >> using >>>> such on the K100D but they're pretty bad (metering on DOF-preview >> only >>>> and/or manually setting aperture to match the lens's). >>>> >>>> The dpreview page >>>> (http://www.dpreview.com/articles/pentaxk10d/page2.asp) >>>> and a few other verbatim copies thereof explicitly says >>>> "Ability to use lens aperture ring" so I was very excitted to think >>> that >>>> Pentax would have finally fixed this (idiotic) design error on the >>> K10D. >>>> But, the press photos of the K10D clearly show an absence of a >>>> mechanical >>>> aperture coupling lever. And the (mis)released manual from a couple >>> of >>>> days ago documents the same behavior as the K100D. Can anyone >> confirm >>>> this for sure one was or the other? >>>> >>>> Also, can anyone explain to me why the K100D (and apparently the >> K10D) >>>> disable >>>> (a) non-central AF sensors (for focus confirmation, not AF, >> obviously) >>>> and >>>> (b) all the metering modes except CWA when using a pre-A lens? I >>> cannot >>>> conceive of any possible reason these features would care about the >>> lens >>>> aperture being set manually. >>>> >>>> Thanks! >>>> David Bliss >>>> >>>> >>> >> > > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
