JCO,

It is a waste of time trying to converse with an idiot like you. I  
will not bother.

G

On Oct 14, 2006, at 2:13 AM, J. C. O'Connell wrote:

> You clueless. First of all there are EXTERIORS
> As well as interiors where you are going to
> Need more "rise" than the shift lenses for medium
> Format and 35mm are going to be able to offer.
>
> Secondly you are very limited on focal lengths
> With medium format and 35mm shift/tilt lenses.
>
> Lastly I said SERIOUS architectural photography,
> Which means being able to do exactly what the
> Customer wants, not something close ( or far from it).
>
> View camera RULE when it comes to architechure, problably
> More than any other genre of photography as a matter of fact
> Due to the much more flexible geometry of the camera itself.
> jco
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On  
> Behalf Of
> Godfrey DiGiorgi
> Sent: Friday, October 13, 2006 6:59 PM
> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
> Subject: Re: Pentax DSLR - some questions before I decide Inet
>
> On Oct 13, 2006, at 8:11 PM, Inet Shopper wrote:
>>> Sorry guys but you really cant do serious
>>> Architechure with any pentax cameras or
>>> Lenses because you need full camera movements
>>> That only a view camera can provide for architecture.
>>> Its amazing what you can do with a view for that.
>>> jco
>
> JCO:
>
> This is nonsense. Many many many architectural interior photographs
> are made with Hasselblad SWC cameras and other wide-field cameras
> that do not have tilts and shifts. I would wager that the majority of
> architectural shots sold to magazines are not made with view cameras,
> and haven't been for years. Particularly interior work.
>
> This is not to say that cameras with shift and tilt are not
> advantageous for architectural work. They are. But unless you are
> doing this kind of work as a speciality and need control on that
> order, yes, you need a good view camera. But I've had a couple of
> commissions done with the Pentax DS and DA14mm lens that is fully
> accepted as interior architectural work.
>
>> I thought tilt/shift lenses were designed to perform perspective
>> correction? ...
>
> Tilt/shift lenses allow a limited amount of correction for this kind
> of work. Unfortunately, most of them are a little too long in focal
> length to be particularly useful for architectural work on a 16x24mm
> sensor camera. You're better off using a wide field lens with minimal
> rectilinear distortion (like the DA14) and using image processing
> software to do any keystone corrections required.
>
>> Thanks for the inputs. Most of my picture-taking is done while
>> travelling, so a
>> zoom is definitely more convenient than a bagful of lenses. As for
>> architecture, here are some examples of "architecture" that I
>> photograph:
>>
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
>>
>> If the link works, you can see that I don't shoot brick walls ;-)
>> so if the
>> wavy/barrel distortion is not too obvious, I'm OK. Normally, the
>> limiting
>> factor is me, not the equipment. And if the final budget dictates
>> either the
>> 16-45 alone, or the kit 18-55 plus one (used) fast lens, then I'm
>> going with
>> the latter.
>
> For the kind of travel work I see on this page (some of it quite
> nice...), the 16-45 will likely do quite well. The 18-55 would
> probably do ok too.
>
> My travel kit this year is a DA21, FA35 and FA77. Compact, light, and
> a nice range with good speed. I often include the DA14 as well, but
> was a little challenged for space on this trip.
>
> Godfrey
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