No you are the fucking asshole. Don't argue Both ends and you wont be called on it.
To put it simply, if you were " surprised at how much more enjoyable photography had become once I started using the A series and later lenses" Then why don't you want option to "enjoy" AE with manual focussing K/M lenses too? The Manual focussing function and the lost K/M AE functions are two completely different unrelated functions. And I didn't suggest removal of the manaul or GB modes whatsoever So that's not an excuse to say the cam sensor and AE would Replace the manual modes you seem to still like even though You admitted earlier ( in the same breath, no less, hehe) , more automated lens functions are "much more enjoyable" to use. That's plain out Rubbish dude. jco -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Shel Belinkoff Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2006 12:48 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: RE: The JCO survey DUH ... I can enjoy both the modern and the old ways of shooting. I've been trying to be nice, but you make it very difficult. I'm tempted to call you a fucking asshole, but I'll refrain from such behavior and language. Read my original post again. Read every word carefully. Perhaps you need to read it several times in order to understand it. I said that the lack of the simulator is of little consequence to me, which is not quite the same as saying it's of no importance. Shel > [Original Message] > From: J. C. O'Connell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List <pdml@pdml.net> > Date: 10/21/2006 9:42:21 AM > Subject: RE: The JCO survey > > DUH. You said that the removal of K/M lens automation > Wasn't of any importance right after you just said you had recently > discovered The joys of modern automation. THAT'S A REALLY DUMB > CONTRADICTORY POST. If you can't see that you are blind. > jco > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > Shel Belinkoff > Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2006 10:51 AM > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > Subject: RE: The JCO survey > > It's not an argument - it's how i feel. I like being able to use my > manual > lenses in fully manual mode. I often do that with K-mount bodies, > removing > the batteries, shooting without using the built in meter or AE, or using > Super Tak or earlier lenses. Rarely do I use my LX an automatic, much > preferring to set the exposure manually and based on my experience, not > what the meter says. I can enjoy shooting any damned way I please. I > enjoy the full spectrum of the options Pentax offers. > I see no contradictions in my comments, nor am I arguing against myself. > > Shel > > > > > [Original Message] > > From: J. C. O'Connell > > > > I am sorry, but this is a really, really, bad argument. On one hand > you > > Are saying you enjoy the "much more enjoyable" automation of "A" and > > later lenses and bodies, But then on the other hand youre saying that > > removal of the only Automation the K/M lenses have is "of little > > consequence". I am sorry But that is a really ridiculous argument. You > > cant have it both ways dude. Either the automation options are a good > > thing are they arent, you are arguing against yourself in totally > > opposite directions in the same post! > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: > Shel Belinkoff > > > > Speaking for myself only, and being a die hard manual camera/K-mount > > user, > > I was pleasantly surprised at how much more enjoyable photography had > > become once I started using the A series and later lenses. I still > love > > the old glass for their optical qualities but I like the newer glass > as > > well. That I can use the older glass on the DSLR body is a bonus as > far > > as > > I'm concerned. The lack of the aperture thingy is of little > consequence > > to > > me as I enjoy using the older lenses in "manual mode," which allows me > > some > > of the pleasures that are found in using older cameras, but I can move > > up > > incrementally into more modern lenses and more modern ways of using > the > > camera. For me, this is great ... ;-)) > > > > Shel > > > > > > > > > [Original Message] > > > From: William Robb > > > > > the K/M era of full support ended with the film camera > > > era. Pentax has not made a DSLR that offers it, they do > > > not feel that it is important, and apparently, most of their > > > customers agree. > > > > > > > > -- > > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > PDML@pdml.net > > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > > > > > -- > > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > PDML@pdml.net > > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
