All this from a snowflake. Miracles exist. As to God, well, whatever suits. ...
G On Oct 27, 2006, at 1:03 PM, Gonz wrote: > ... Of course, its still useful (logic). But it (science/math) can > never be > complete, and the incompleteness theorem never defines the limits, it > just says for any axiomatic system, there is true stuff about it that > cannot be proven, hence it is a fact outside the axiomatic system. > > I.e. if God is a true fact outside our axiomatic system, then science > can never prove nor disprove God. As the presumed designer of the > system, we have essentially defined God to be outside of the system. > > It seems to me this was intentional on God's part, i.e. faith would > not > be necessary if you could prove God's existance or if He was here > among > us. The real mystery is then why would God make faith a necessary > precondition? Genuine relationships are based on faith and trust. ... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net