Thanks for the additonal clarification on that John.  I appreciate it.


Tom C.


>From: John Francis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>Subject: Re: K10D aimed as D200 killer/Translation of interview
>Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2006 17:33:51 -0500
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>
>If you can do that, the results are actually significantly better.
>The signal, being signal, does just add up.  But the noise, being
>random, doesn't simply add; sometimes it's positive, and sometimes
>it's negative, so there is some cancelling.
>
>In fact if you stack up N images you get N times the signal, but
>only sqrt(N) times the noise (strictly true only for a gaussian
>noise distribution, but in practice correct for just about any
>noise you're going to see in the real world).
>
>
>On Tue, Oct 31, 2006 at 02:01:13PM -0700, Tom C wrote:
> > I'm still going to wait and compare the noise based on side by side 
>reviews.
> >
> > The full translation does come across better.
> >
> > It also is likely possible to reduce overall noise by shooting at 
>shorter
> > exposure times and stacking images.  The stack will stack up noise just 
>like
> > it does with the signal, but if each stacked image is  less than half as
> > noisy as it's double-ISO cousin, results could be favorable.
> >
> > Tom C.
> >
> >
> >
> > >From: Jack Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> > >To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List <pdml@pdml.net>
> > >Subject: Re: K10D aimed as D200 killer/Translation of interview
> > >Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2006 10:57:23 -0800 (PST)
> > >
> > >Ditto! I'm sure it allayed noise concerns for many and especially those
> > >who might have designs on astro-photography.
> > >Did it help, Tom?
> > >
> > >Jack
> > >
> > >--- Joseph Tainter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Ken, this is wonderful information. Thanks very much for the
> > > > translation. You are a great asset for us.
> > > >
> > > > Compressed RAW? This is news.
> > > >
> > > > I assume that in Japan there have been discussions of noise levels 
>at
> > > >
> > > > high ISO in the K10D, just as there have been here. I interpret this
> > > > interview as an attempt to quell the concerns and speculations that
> > > > have
> > > > been going around. I know many list members have been bothered by 
>the
> > > >
> > > > expression of these concerns, but guess what? I suspect that our
> > > > expressions of concern got our famously uncommunicative company to
> > > > scatter a few more crumbs of information our way.
> > > >
> > > > I note the point about tone gradation in the samples posted on 
>Pentax
> > > >
> > > > Japan's web site. But without comparative samples of the same 
>subject
> > > >
> > > > taken with, say, a 12 bit A/D converter, I can't tell yet just what
> > > > the
> > > > 22 bit converter will give us.
> > > >
> > > > Joe
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