That's much better than you could ever achieve with ISO 1600 color  
film. In fact, it's an excellent shot. The lack of perfection is part  
of its appeal. In my opinion, to achieve something better in terms of  
rendering would require medium format BW.
On Nov 6, 2006, at 10:00 AM, Shel Belinkoff wrote:

> I took the pic down but, for you, have just put it up again.  You  
> can see
> all the noise in the dark apron and pants of the waitress, and the
> muddiness in Zones 1,2, and perhaps 3.
>
> http://home.earthlink.net/~ebay-pics/bkfast_at_bette's.html
>
> Shel
>
>
>
>> [Original Message]
>> From: Kostas Kavoussanakis <
>
>> On Mon, 6 Nov 2006, Shel Belinkoff wrote:
>>
>>> I posted a shot here a while back -
>>> Bette's Diner - in which I shot so far
>>> to the right to the right that I literally
>>> had to paint in some highlight
>>> details, yet the darker areas of the
>>> photo were still very noisy. This may
>>> have been the result of having to shoot
>>> @ 1600 ISO, but, as has been said,
>>> that area in Zones 1,2,and 3 were a
>>> bit of a mess.  Maybe using noise
>>> reduction software is a solution.
>>
>> This?
>>
>> http://www.mail-archive.com/pdml@pdml.net/msg337082.html
>>
>> Can't access the picture (the apostrophe?).
>
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