it can all be done in the camera using predefined settings in exactly
the same way as the conversion to jpeg is done in the camera.

--
 Bob
 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
> Behalf Of J. C. O'Connell
> Sent: 17 December 2006 01:28
> To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List'
> Subject: RE: K10D review online
> 
> I dont follow you, if you have to do this processing
> at home with special ACR or Pentax sofware to open and print the
> RAW files, then its not as "portable" or "universal"
> a format as jpeg is which you can print directly
> from the media card at minilabs, no? that would seem
> to be a major feature of "shooting jpeg" if thats
> all you want or need.
> jco
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
> Behalf Of
> Bob W
> Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2006 4:15 PM
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> Subject: RE: K10D review online
> 
> 
> I don't know what the purpose of the jpeg option is. As far as I can
> see, the only benefit of it is to store more pictures on the card. 
> 
> It is no more difficult to plug the camera into a printer and 
> print from
> raw files. You can get usable results. Results that are at 
> least as good
> as jpeg. 
> 
> To the best of my knowledge there are no intrinsic properties of raw
> files that force anybody to do any post-processing at all. All of
the
> pictures that I have had from my Olympus, for example, have been
> perfectly usable without post-processing. Of course, this doesn't
mean
> they are exhibition standard. But nor are jpegs under the same
> circumstances.
> 
> You can do an experiment and judge for yourself rather than 
> take my word
> for it. Borrow a digital camera, shoot some raw, some jpeg, 
> and get some
> prints.
> 
> If you think about the processes that are going on, it must be true.

> 
> Suppose you decide that you are going to 'shoot jpeg', which 
> only means
> you're going to store jpeg. You make an exposure which the sensor
> records. The software reads the data from the sensor, converts it to
> jpeg on the fly and stores the results. 
> 
> When you walk up to the printer and plug the camera in, the 
> software in
> the camera reads the jpeg file and converts it into the 
> format that the
> printer understands.
> 
> If you decide to shoot raw, then when you make an exposure 
> the software
> reads the data from the sensor and stores it without converting it
to
> jpeg. 
> 
> When you walk up to the printer and plug the camera in, the 
> software in
> the camera reads the raw file and converts it into the format that
the
> printer understands.
> 
> There is no reason at all why the same algorithm that makes 
> jpeg results
> USABLE, as you put it, wouldn't be used on the conversion from raw
to
> the printer format, since both processes start from the same 
> place, and
> end up in the same place.
> 
> --
>  Bob
>  
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> > Behalf Of J. C. O'Connell
> > Sent: 16 December 2006 20:45
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> > Subject: RE: K10D review online
> > 
> > But isnt the purpose of using the jpeg output
> > option of the camera so you can just go
> > straight to a print lab and print the jpegs
> > without having to do any digital processing
> > of the images on a PC or laptop? It sounds
> > like you cant do RAW and get instant **USABLE**
> > results which is what I meant.
> > jco
> > 
> 
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