> > From: "P. J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: 2007/01/24 Wed AM 12:42:09 GMT > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List <pdml@pdml.net> > Subject: Re: Moral dilemma > > Seems to me that the BBC can't decide if it's organized. (or > disorganized), crime.
Salvage (saving something from total loss) very much depends on cicumstances. For example, if someone found one of the deck containers on the beach, secured it and claimed salage, that is perfectly legal. They have to store it securely for a period of time, after which it is theirs if not claimed. If they force open the container and take some of the contents, it gets very blurred. On one hand, they have damaged the property (the container) but they could argue that they have salvaged the stuff they removed. It's rather easy to guess the intentions of the wallys who have (allegedly) already offered stuff on ebay - which should be removing these auctions as fast as they are placed, as otherwise it is an accomplice. If people have filled in the requisite paperwork and not caused further damage, there has been no crime. It would have been nice if some of the rubbish could have been taken away at the same time..... These circumstances only apply at sea and on shorelines, where the possibility of an owner losing their proeprty entirely is high. In previous times, when shipwreck was more common, it was a form of insurance. Used corrctly, it still provides a useful service to owners. It's an owner's legal obligation to accept salvage in some circumstances. > > Cotty wrote: > > On 23/1/07, mike wilson, discombobulated, unleashed: > > > > > >>> Define distasteful ! > >>> > >> I meant it as a generic statement. Distasteful varies from person to > >> person, as well as having a cultural side. As a personal guide, I would > >> have it mean "to take advantage of the subject". You could add > >> disclaimers such as "for no valid reason" but then you are into defining > >> validity. Everyone knows what their personal beliefs and customs are. > >> Sometimes it is good to move outside them, even by accident, but one > >> needs to know why. > >> > > > > Granted. Everyone has limits, but I think setting them generically is > > implausible. Mercifully we have the rule of law in the civilised world > > because obviously we do not want anarchy. It's a tricky area. I'm a > > hardass newsguy but I tell you what - if I found a tenner lying in the > > road, I'd take it to the police station. And in fact I have. > > > > I have no bones about filming/photographing a corpse, but trudging along > > a beach with bits of motorcycle I find abhorrent ! > > > > <http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6291191.stm> > > > > <http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/6290887.stm> > > > > > > > -- > -- > > The more I know of men, the more I like my dog. > -- Anne Louise Germaine de Stael > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > ----------------------------------------- Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net