I will accept your comments, I am 20 years out of the business, and you certainly know more about current practice than I. However you still have to demand the PDF's, correct? My experience was that editors volunteered nothing, and I don't think that has changed much.
And, I was a lower echelon pro, as will be anyone trying trying to break into the business. You do not start out with the world beating on your door A few wind up with that happening. Very few, I believe. My knowledge of how the big guys work came from popping into their studio and shooting the shit, something they were surprisingly willing to do as long as they were not in the middle of a shoot. I did not start out with connections in the business like you (how long did you say you were in advertising?), so I do know how hard it is to break in as a nobody. Unfortunately, or perhaps fortunately , I had a couple of other decent paying trades and was not willing to go hungry long enough to make it above the LE level. I do suggest a couple of courses on business management and basic accounting for anyone wanting to be self-employed. They have stood me in good stead in my old age; my therapist is amazed that I can manage my limited income so well, most of her clients can not. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I find that only lower echelon pros include tear sheets in portfolios. The > top guys let their work speak for them, and it's understood that they're > widely published. As far as PDFs are concerned, PDFs, printed on photo > paper, are nice because you get a much more finished look than with an offset > printed page. They're less interruptive in an attractive portfolio. One would > have to be a cretin to falsify publications. > Paul > -------------- Original message ---------------------- > From: graywolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Not a silly question at all. Tear sheets are pages cut out of the >> publications where your photos appeared. Usually they simply give you >> several copies of the publication and you cut them out yourself. In the >> case of expensive books you usually get just the pages before they are >> bound into books. I am not sure the PDF's Paul mentioned are really an >> equivalent as anyone can do a layout, the actual pages prove that the >> work was published. >> >> A working photographers portfolio usually consists of tear sheets and a >> few carefully aimed photos that show he can do work for that client that >> has even more impact that his previously published work. >> >> -graywolf >> >> >> Tim Øsleby wrote: >>> Silly question: What's tear sheets? >>> >>> >>> Tim >>> Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of >>> graywolf >>> Sent: 24. januar 2007 18:29 >>> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>> Subject: Re: Opportunity or Rip Off ? Advice Solicited >>> >>> Tear sheets should be a demand that goes with any sale. Tear sheets are >>> better than portfolio shots because they have obviously been paid for >>> and published. >>> >>> >>> >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >>>> In a message dated 1/24/2007 7:21:07 AM Pacific Standard Time, >>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >>>> Regards >>>> >>>> Patrick Genovese >>>> ============ >>>> I am not a professional photographer but I'd have real problems with not >>>> being able to show at least one photo/image in my portfolio. I think you >>> should >>>> insist on that. Say you won't sell them again, but in the future you need >>> to be >>>> able to show one or more to others to show what you can do and that >>> someone >>>> paid you to do it. >>>> >>>> I expect the professionals have some recommendations on how to word that. >>>> >>>> Marnie aka Doe >>>> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.17.10/651 - Release Date: 1/24/2007 > 6:48 PM -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
