Tom C wrote:

>I'm being cranky... :-)
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Now you tell me...

>  I realized it was probably known.
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oh sure.... hehe

>My reason for making the comment was that I tend to think if one enjoys the 
>photo, then setup or not, one can still enjoy the photo, it being a product 
>of the photographer's eye and mind.
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Except that, I think, it was kinda put forth as being spontaneous and 
not til later was
it discovered/discussed that it wasn't.   It may have been a sent up 
after seeing it
happen and not being able to capture it, but I think she was there 
working with a model
for some other reason - again, I'm fuzzy on this.. I know the whole 
story is around somewhere.

>In landscape photography, one doesn't always simply happen upon the scene 
>and shoot it because one is there.  As you know, one may go back to the same 
>spot many times, observing the light, fine-tuning the composition, choosing 
>one kind of weather over another. In many ways analogous to setting up a 
>street scene.
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>Tom C.
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Actually, most landscape photography for me has been done on the fly - 
although I
might have sat and waited for an hour or two in rare instances, most of 
the time I was
not able to do that.  

Most of the time I was shooting it was a case of yelping "stop" to my 
partner who
was driving when I saw something I wanted to grab.  :)

ann

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>>From: ann sanfedele <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>>To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List <pdml@pdml.net>
>>Subject: Re: American girl in Italy by Ruth Orkin
>>Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 14:50:01 -0500
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>>But but the answer is known, Tom....
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>>When I said "I believe" I simply meant "to the best of my recollection"
>> it is documented somewhere,
>>elaborately.
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>>ann
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>>Tom C wrote:
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>>>My question to all of you is, assuming the answer is unknown, how can you
>>>tell?
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>>>Tom C.
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>>>>From: ann sanfedele <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List <pdml@pdml.net>
>>>>To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List <pdml@pdml.net>
>>>>Subject: Re: American girl in Italy by Ruth Orkin
>>>>Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 13:10:04 -0500
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>>>>I think semi contrived...
>>>>I believe she set up and had the girl walk by.. but the guys on the
>>>>street were not in on it entirely...
>>>>Too bad it was even set up to that extent .
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>>>>BTW - If any of you ever see a photo of Orkin's of a guy in swimming
>>>>trunks  leaping into the
>>>>air to grab a frisbee - shot in Central Park about um 30 years ago, (in
>>>>a book?on line?)
>>>>let me know.
>>>>
>>>>ann
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>>>>William Robb wrote:
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>>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>>From: "Jens Bladt" Subject: OT: American girl in Italy by Ruth Orkin
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>>>>>>What is the truth about "American Girl in Italy", which is one of my 
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>>all
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>>>>>>time favorite photogarphs?
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>>>>>>The New York Times, Sunday April 30, 1995
>>>>>>Candid or Contrived? The Making of a Classic  by Shaun Considine
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>>>>>>Some of you may know?
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>>>>>Contrived.
>>>>>
>>>>>William Robb
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