Neither am I, but Gimp (for Windows) will do a fine job for $0 .... http://gimp-win.sourceforge.net/
Drew. Bob Sullivan wrote: > Russ, > I'm no expert, but > Photoshop Elements 4.0 will get you what you need for under $100. > Regards, Bob S. > > On 4/4/07, Russell Kerstetter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> yeah, I am working in iPhoto. I have only been using it since my >> Lightroom beta expired, and really, this is the first image that I >> have processed with it. (And with only one image done, I can already >> see the huge limitations.) >> >> Russ >> >> On 4/4/07, Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> The land is still muddy. You need to treat the midtones independently >>> of the highlights. You can do that with the shadow/highlight tool or >>> with curves if you're working in PhotoShop. >>> Paul >>> On Apr 4, 2007, at 12:51 AM, Russell Kerstetter wrote: >>> >>>> Here is a new, brighter version. It is still a little dark, but much >>>> more than this and the clouds are just a white mess. >>>> >>>> http://www.avocadohead.com/piclinks/spare.html >>>> >>>> Thanks again to those who commented. >>>> >>>> Russ >>>> >>>> On 4/2/07, Russell Kerstetter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>>> Shel and Godders- >>>>> >>>>> Thanks for taking the time to show me some alternative solutions. I >>>>> like both of your different takes, I also like that you were able to >>>>> brighten the whole thing up without losing the cloud detail. I >>>>> fiddled around for a while this evening, but was not able to >>>>> duplicate >>>>> our results. I can brighten it up some, but by the time I start to >>>>> lose cloud detail the water in the lake is still too dark. But that >>>>> may be the price I have to pay for using free software :) So I will >>>>> have to mess around with this some more again tomorrow evening and >>>>> see >>>>> what I can come up with. Thanks again. >>>>> >>>>> Russ >>>>> >>>>> On 4/2/07, Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>>>> Your original was rendered extremely dark, Russell. It's a simple >>>>>> landscape scene ... rendered up with a bit bit of balancing between >>>>>> water and sky, you get this rather nice, rather serene feel out of >>>>>> it. I took the liberty of doing a couple of edits to give you an >>>>>> idea >>>>>> where I'd go with it... It includes your original so you can see the >>>>>> differences easily. >>>>>> >>>>>> http://homepage.mac.com/godders/rk2882/ >>>>>> >>>>>> This is a case where if I was using Lightroom I could likely do most >>>>>> of what I did with its tools, and presuming I had the RAW file to >>>>>> work with, but with just an 8bit image file to work with Photoshop >>>>>> allows the kind of gentle, selective editing required to bring >>>>>> this up. >>>>>> >>>>>> 1- Don't underexpose. Determine where the brightest elements are >>>>>> that >>>>>> you want to retain detail in and expose correctly for that ... >>>>>> Placing exposure properly like that takes a little time to figure >>>>>> out >>>>>> and if you're not sure you should bracket exposure around it. The >>>>>> histogram shows you an approximation based on values in the JPEG >>>>>> preview that is rendered for every file, but if you're capturing in >>>>>> RAW you can work with what looks like a little bit of highlight >>>>>> overexposures on the histogram. It's not rigorously calibrated, you >>>>>> have to work with it to understand what you're seeing. >>>>>> >>>>>> 2- Yes, this is a problem. Your screen looks overly bright compared >>>>>> to the ambient light and that's tricking your eye. Better to >>>>>> calibrate and profile the screen in modest, normal room light and >>>>>> work that way so that your eyes and the screen are at proper >>>>>> luminance values. I calibrate my screen for 140 lumens, gamma 1.8 >>>>>> and >>>>>> 5500K white point in normal, indirect room illumination. Move any >>>>>> light that glares on the screen to a different position so that's >>>>>> not >>>>>> a problem. This will make a huge difference in how your photos >>>>>> come out. >>>>>> >>>>>> Godfrey >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Apr 2, 2007, at 12:04 PM, Russell Kerstetter wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks Bruce, PJ, Paul, Markus Shel and Brian for being honest. >>>>>>> When >>>>>>> I look at it objectively, I agree that it is mostly an >>>>>>> uninteresting >>>>>>> picture. Maybe next time I will try the 'Auto Compose' function >>>>>>> on my >>>>>>> DL. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I have been told several times, that my pictures are too dark. >>>>>>> To be >>>>>>> clear, we are talking a few stops dark, but not black or >>>>>>> anything like >>>>>>> that, right? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I think there are two issues here (if anyone cares to comment >>>>>>> further): >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 1) Foremost, I think I have a tendency to underexpose, >>>>>>> specifically >>>>>>> on shots like this. I really like detail in the clouds and am >>>>>>> afraid >>>>>>> of losing it even when the clouds are not the most important >>>>>>> aspect of >>>>>>> the picture. IIRC the histogram for this shot had the highlights >>>>>>> touching the first bar from the right (which is a half-stop right?) >>>>>>> but I think that what you are seeing on your screen is probably >>>>>>> darker >>>>>>> than just a half-stop. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 2) I usually work in a dark room because I hate glare off the >>>>>>> screen. >>>>>>> I have been running my mac on gamma 1.8 instead of 2.2, but from >>>>>>> what >>>>>>> I am hearing I think that is a negligible part of my problem. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Russ >>>>>>> (here to learn) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 4/1/07, Russell Kerstetter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>>>>>> This is a reservoir/lake near my mother-in-law's house. Also >>>>>>>> this is >>>>>>>> the first photo I have processed with iPhoto. 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