Hi Paul,

Yes, but that's not a portfolio per se. It's a a paid shoot where the buyer 
basically has the 'right' to see all the material generated.  It's not like 
presenting a portfolio on a cold call, where one had better show only their 
best.

Tom C.


>From: Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List <pdml@pdml.net>
>Subject: Re: Looking at Pictures
>Date: Wed, 9 May 2007 23:09:54 -0400
>
>Working in the ad biz, I've seen the full results of shoots from top
>pros. Believe me, they include plenty of clunkers. Very little
>editing is done before the goods are delivered. Why? It's part and
>parcel of getting  your money's worth. When you pay 50 grand for a
>two day shoot, you want to see the whole program. No one is perfect.
>Every photographer produces some bad shots.
>Paul
>On May 9, 2007, at 7:26 PM, Kenneth Waller wrote:
>
> >> Depends a lot on your purpose.
> > True. I believe we were talking about pro photogs not camera club
> > members.
> >
> >> A commercial photographer can over edit and lose sales because
> >> someone may
> >> have liked those photos.
> > True, but I would then contend that he hasn't got a good enough
> > feel for his
> > potential clients needs.
> >
> > Kenneth Waller
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "graywolf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Subject: Re: Looking at Pictures
> >
> >
> >> Depends a lot on your purpose. A commercial photographer can over
> >> edit
> >> and lose sales because someone may have liked those photos. A fine
> >> art
> >> photographer needs to be more selective. A camera club member
> >> needs to
> >> make sure his photos look like everyone else's in the club. This
> >> list is
> >> more like a camera club than not, but is a bit more open minded.
> >>
> >> -graywolf
> >>
> >>
> >> Tom C wrote:
> >>>>> They've learned to largely relegate their emotions, prejudices,
> >>>>> and
> >>>>> personal attachments to the back >seat when deciding which
> >>>>> images are
> >>>>> worthy of display and may enjoy potential success.
> >>>> I call that critical editing, IMO one of the best ways to
> >>>> improve my
> >>>> photography.
> >>>>
> >>>> Kenneth Waller
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> That's my feelings.  One never becomes perfect at this but I find it
> >>> coming
> >>> full circle now. I can look throught the viewfinder and think,
> >>> "No that's
> >>> not it", or "Yes, maybe this it".
> >>>
> >>> To tell the truth, for almost any image I see displayed on this
> >>> or any
> >>> other
> >>> list that is widely panned, it's the fact that it did not receive
> >>> critical
> >>> editting by the photographer, or if an attempt was made, it still
> >>> slipped
> >>> through.
> >>>
> >>> In short it's very often the ability to say, "I took this picture
> >>> and it
> >>> sucks", instead of "This picture is good because I took it".
> >>>
> >>> Tom C.
> >>>
> >>> Tom C.
> >
> >
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