On 5/31/07, John Sessoms <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > He was, depending upon how you reckon it, either first or eleventh. > > First because he was Jesus's follower before Jesus recruited Simon (aka > Peter "the Rock") and his brother Andrew to be "fishers of men", and > eleventh because others eventually superseded him in the hierarchy, and > the name of the twelfth is unclear, being in various versions of the > gospels called Jude, Thaddeous or Judas, brother of James, to > distinguish him from Judas Iscariot. > > Matthias was the 13th disciple, recruited by the remaining eleven after > the crucification to replace Judas Iscariot. >
Judas was the 13th Apostle, because Miss Dubien, my fifth grade teacher at St. Raphael's School in Montreal said so. cheers, frank ;-) -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net