I prefer Basic.

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P. J. Alling wrote:
> If you want to be precise speak Esperanto.
> 
> Bob W wrote:
>> All Pilsners may be lager, but not all lagers are Pilsner. Pilsners
>> come from Pilsen as Lancashire cheese comes from Lancashire, but not
>> all cheese is from Lancashire. 
>>
>> Nothing to do with the precision or otherwise of the language. Trying
>> to make a natural language precise in all respects probably is a
>> foolish endeavour.
>>
>> --
>>  Bob
>>  
>>
>>   
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
>>> Behalf Of graywolf
>>> Sent: 10 June 2007 19:03
>>> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
>>> Subject: Re: Meta-GFM: Are there any *bad* microbreweries in NC?
>>>
>>> To which I have to reply, can you actually have a British 
>>> lager? <GRIN> 
>>>
>>> Can Pilsners be made anywhere other than Czechoslovakia? 
>>> Which according to my atlas no longer exists. Of course, my 
>>> dictionary says Pilsen is in Bohemia and that seems to have 
>>> been gone a long long time. It also says that Bohemia was a 
>>> Kingdom in the former Czech Republic????
>>>
>>> So, since English does not seem to be a very precise 
>>> language, I guess you can say anything at all. Us folks who 
>>> try to make it precise are apparently the village idiots.
>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>> Bob W wrote:
>>>     
>>>> No reason why you can't have American IPA if we can have British
>>>> lager, and so on. It's just a style of brewing, that's all.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>  Bob
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>>       
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
>>>>> Behalf Of graywolf
>>>>> Sent: 09 June 2007 23:32
>>>>> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
>>>>> Subject: Re: Meta-GFM: Are there any *bad* microbreweries in NC?
>>>>>
>>>>> Is there such a thing as an american IPA? India Pale Ale was 
>>>>> a British invention, the hops were supposed to make it travel 
>>>>> well, e.g. to India by sailing ship for the troops to drink. 
>>>>>
>>>>> Anchor makes a pretty decent Porter, but that is about the 
>>>>> only American made version that is actually good, Black Hook 
>>>>> is mediocre at best and the rest, well... Most microbrewers 
>>>>> try, but lose something in translation.
>>>>>
>>>>> Strangely most of the microbrews are more expensive than the 
>>>>> imports. Well, most folks think expensive is good. BTW 
>>>>> "premium beer" is an american invention, the term means the 
>>>>> same cheap beer at a higher price. <sorry no grin>.
>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>> Rick Womer wrote:
>>>>>         
>>>>>> I've never heard American IPAs described as bland
>>>>>> before!  What puts most people off them is their
>>>>>> hoppiness.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Rick
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --- Bob W <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>           
>>>>>>> I'm quite adventurous in my beer explorations. IPA
>>>>>>> is one of the few
>>>>>>> beers I don't particularly like - it's too bland.
>>>>>>> Stout is another.
>>>>>>> This makes for a difficult choice after a game of
>>>>>>> squash because the
>>>>>>> bar at my club only serves IPA and stout. A few
>>>>>>> weeks ago I found a
>>>>>>> shop which sold quite a wide range of US
>>>>>>> micro-beers, so I bought a
>>>>>>> bottle of each to try them and I was rather
>>>>>>> disappointed, to be
>>>>>>> honest. Most of them were too malty for me. I guess
>>>>>>> they don't travel
>>>>>>> particularly well. Either that or they're meant to
>>>>>>> be served much
>>>>>>> colder than I like.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>  Bob
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>> Behalf Of David J Brooks
>>>>>>>> Sent: 09 June 2007 13:01
>>>>>>>> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Meta-GFM: Are there any *bad*
>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>> microbreweries in NC?
>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>> I usually dont get advebtursome in my beer buying,
>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>> but i bougt 6 of
>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>> the ipa from West Jeferson. Yet to try one, maybe
>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>> tonight after
>>>>>>> Erins
>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>> show
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Dave
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 6/8/07, Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>> I almost always bring back some Cottonwood
>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>> Brewery "Endo" pale ale
>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>> (official slogan: "Over the bars!") from North
>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>> Carolina. This time
>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>> also brought back a selection of brews by the
>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>> Highland 
>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>> Brewing Company:
>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>> Kashmir Pale Ale, Black Mocha Stout and Oatmeal
>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>> Porter. Excellent
>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>> brews, every one.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Just another fringe benefit of driving down to
>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>> Blue Ridge 
>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>> country ;-)
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