Tom - let me take another bong hit and I'll get back to you on this...
Norm

Tom C wrote:
> That's correct. And I believe we're in an area that we, I at least, am 
> pretty much unable to comprehend.  We're stuck in a "What came before that?" 
> loop.  Infinity is mind-boggling and for me especially so when one goes 
> backwards in time.
>
> Who knows what lies outside this apparent space-time bubble we exist in 
> called the universe?  What is it's nature? We may never know.
>
> One is stuck with the same sort of question, whether one believes in a 
> creator or not. What came before? Acknowledging that there are things I will 
> never know or understand because they may very well be incomprehensible, I 
> still look at the evidence I am able to comprehend and ask, "OK, do I see 
> evidence of a designer?".  I say "Yes".  I don't ignore the evidence before 
> me, or throw it out the window, just because I am unable to comprehend or 
> get my head around the bigger question.
>
> So it seems to boil down to...
>
> 1. Did the universe have a beginning?
> 2. If so, did that beginning have a cause?
> 3. If so, was it caused by 1) something eternal or 2) someone eternal?
>   


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